This whole saga is just more evidence of us being a joke. I mean we are supposed to be improving the team we can’t even get that right.
Pogba Future
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I guess people are trying to be hopeful but deep down we all have this feeling of dread. Just a month left before the start of the new season and so many issues still unresolved
Yeah I don't agree with that role either. He was very good and should have been left to play same role. Playing him deeper messed it up.
The post I replied to was talking about Pogba as DM and deepest mid in last 10 games which never happened.
Great post. Hope this can all be resolved before it gets too toxic.
He will look great again in leagues where people stand off and let him stud roll the ball. A common problem he faced here is against the likes of Huddersfield he will wrestle off a challenge and think he is free, then the opponent comes back immediately for a second bite and he loses the ball.
Also against Barca and PSG he was nowhere to be seen, while Mctominay and Fred having better games than him
Pogba was training in New York wearing a jersey of his brother's Atalanta FC. If Pogba decides to boycott Australia in demand for a move, United's bargaining power will be seriously affected notwithstanding the fact that he still has three years on his contract. United's best bet is if several clubs become more interested in him, which is not the case at the moment.
I understand the hopeful part, if you can't be that in the close season then it's sad, but it was the same last summer, it was staring us in the face what was about to happen, and this time around, it's looking worse.
We just refuse to change, so I don't understand how things are going to get better, but you never know we might have something up our sleeve yet.
It's ironically how he fell out with all his 3 United managers but for his fanboys it's all their fault and we are now "Sir Alex stans". Imagine having a United fan calling you that. I have seen it all.
Well yeah of course all of us are "Sir Alex stans".
Seriously WTF? Most of us grew up knowing nothing other than him as United manager and he was our idol. Is that hard to realize by a United fan?
Well yeah of course all of us are "Sir Alex stans".
Seriously WTF? Most of us grew up knowing nothing other than him as United manager and he was our idol. Is that hard to realize by a United fan? The other thing is: he's 26, going on 27. He's not a young player with the room to develop any more. This is him. And if his spell here is anything to go by, he'll always be this inconsistent player who's prone to peaks and troughs in form. He's still that cherry on top of the cake when he should have been the whole cake.
That's what's most disappointing about his career thus far. Being in a bad team shouldn't have caused him to stall in his development in the way it has. That's on him. It should have been the perfect setting for him to kick on and become one of the best players in Europe. It certainly didn't stop Gerrard, who's a similar profile and just one example.
If he doesn't turn up for the tour then he needs to be sold before the squad get home from the tour. Allowing him to take part with anything to do with the first team would see him spread his mood/virus throughout the squad which is the last thing we need. Get him sold to the highest bidder and have him out before the lads get home. Ole needs to get them to forget about him and build a positive atmosphere ASAP.
I would prefer we sought a straight up cash deal, but in reality if Madrid come calling they will be offering players in exchange to balance their books. Varane could answer our needs at CB, and Ceballos looks decent too. Just so long as we don't take Bale, or if we do as a bonus to a player we do take without paying his wages.
We do need to start replacing him now. Has Tielemens signed with Leicester yet? I personally rate him and he'd be a good start. If we could add Bruno and one of Ndidi or Maddison I think we'd be a better team for it. I haven't seen enough of Longstaff to comment whether he is worth pursuing or not.
I would prefer we sought a straight up cash deal, but in reality if Madrid come calling they will be offering players in exchange to balance their books. Varane could answer our needs at CB, and Ceballos looks decent too. Just so long as we don't take Bale, or if we do as a bonus to a player we do take without paying his wages.
We do need to start replacing him now. Has Tielemens signed with Leicester yet? I personally rate him and he'd be a good start. If we could add Bruno and one of Ndidi or Maddison I think we'd be a better team for it. I haven't seen enough of Longstaff to comment whether he is worth pursuing or not.
I don’t see point in allowing this to drag on for another season, it’s clear there’s no long term future for him and if Ole is trying to build a team that presses and works harder he will only undermine it.
Can’t see either of Madrid or Juve giving us 150m so it’s going to be cash and a player or keep him for another season.
Similar problem to what we have with Lukaku, it’s either keep players who will probably under perform or sell for less than market value. Obviously can’t sell at drastically reduced prices but around 200m for both is about as good as it will get.
Can’t see either of Madrid or Juve giving us 150m so it’s going to be cash and a player or keep him for another season.
Similar problem to what we have with Lukaku, it’s either keep players who will probably under perform or sell for less than market value. Obviously can’t sell at drastically reduced prices but around 200m for both is about as good as it will get.
When will a club take a stand on a player who thinks it's acceptable to not join his team on tour, do whatever he wants and not honour his contract? Player power is completely out of control, and the governing bodies are doing nothing to even try to shackle it. The sport is becoming a complete joke.
Demand £150m and fine him for every week that he doesn't show up. Play the long game and do not budge from our valuation. I don't care if he's rotting in the reserves, he has three years to wait for his move, we have other kids that actually want to play for the club. Make a stance and grow some bollocks.
Demand £150m and fine him for every week that he doesn't show up. Play the long game and do not budge from our valuation. I don't care if he's rotting in the reserves, he has three years to wait for his move, we have other kids that actually want to play for the club. Make a stance and grow some bollocks.
80million plus Isco would be ok with me.
Can't add anything more than what's already been said but could the start of this season be anymore disruptive?
He has the football tools to be the whole cake but he was never meant to be on IMHO. As fans we expected way too much from him whereas nothing really indicated he'd be that kinda player. My issue with him is the inconsistency in intensity, without being our savior who'd carry us on his back, I think there is a middle ground he could have easily found by pushing himself more. If I felt like he gave his absolute best in terms of effort in most games and the team still struggled, I would have no issue with him.
This.
I think he has all the physical and technical tools to be it but the most important one: the will or inclination to do so is what's missing. Before he arrived, he said he wanted to be that player but upon arriving it was quickly apparent that it was just words.
Yeah, the lack of effort towards the end of last season, when top 4 was still in reach was unforgivable. It was that last month or so which really broke my support of him. It was absolutely disgusting. Ole shaped the team around him and he promptly shat on him after two good months. Like I said, unforgivable.
That was the need of the hour with Matic and Herrera injured. But pogba is a selfish prick. All he cares about himself , his assists , his goals, his pay cut, not about the team and the club.
Also nothing was stopping him to join in attacking areas from left side of the three, he is just lazy and shit at it, he doesn't know how to time his runs inside the box and affect both offensively and defensively, but that's all, he has won the world cup so no manager should tell him to play for the team and play little bit in the controlling way. Selfish prick.
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Are you on your period? Do you want a cranberry juice?
120M from Juventus for both Pogba and Sanchez sounds well right now. The latter is an addition by subtraction that saves a ton of money.
What are you talking about ? Is he AWOL ? I think the club gave him more days of rest no ?
I would sell him tomorrow, however, I have absolutely zero faith that we’ll spend the money on the right players.
100% this
As a City fan, I hope you keep Pogba.
I think that says a lot about him.
I think that says a lot about him.
Think this needs to get done now although I would have preferred it to get sorted out sooner. Don't want Pog the Jog around sulking for another year and also by next year his value will go down so we will be loosing money as well.
I don't honestly think we will get a 100 million for this toxic person. Talk about being big headed and useless.
Not sure this sort of post is welcome.
Good god I envy Liverpool at this point selling Coutinho and spending it right. There is no way we are going to do the same.
How many times have we kept a big player that the majority of fans wanted rid of, and it didn't work out? I just think back to in Ronaldo in 2006 when it definitely seemed like the majority were ambivalent at best, and many wanted rid. Is there an obvious example in reverse?
I will tell you now categorily, that pogba will never grace the playing fields of Real or Barca unless as an opposing team player.
I'd just 'Schweinsteiger ' him until someone coughs up an acceptable offer for him.
Nobody should be allowed to treat the club and us like something stuck under the bottom of their shoe the way he is doing now.
Nobody should be allowed to treat the club and us like something stuck under the bottom of their shoe the way he is doing now.
Why?
Problem is, his price reduces the longer we do that.
Read his post. Don’t worry about mine.
Who is the team built around then? Juan Mata? You appear to want us to devote one player solely to hold his hand for 90 minutes.3 years here and we never built the team around him. What an importance
And if you think that he isn't good enough to be THE GUY, at least try to create a good team with Pogba as a sidekick.
But no ! we prefered to waste 3 years and now we are surprised that he wants to leave ?
And if we talk about the issues off the pitch... I can't see one reason that may convince him to stay
Pogba has been our star/main man since he re joined the football club. Now there's many reasons why it hasn't quite worked out. The club is to fault for being poorly managed. And Pogba has disappointed in his own individual displays as well. I have no issues with him wanting to leave - he's in the prime of his career and understandably wants to compete for top honours. At the same time, we haven't let victim Pogba down either. People being overly hash or the club come across as clearly biased one way or the other.
Are you his fan boy impressed by dabbing celebrations?
This is exactly the way he should be treated. He should be banned from ever entering the grounds again.
Ollie and Woodward have become laughing stocks around the world, the former for treating Pogba with respect when in reality hr is just an immature adult.
If they don't get the team playing good football this year then Woodard, Ollie and the glaziers are finished in football.
I would have thought that the fans would have walked before now but as Keano says, there are too many posh sandwich eaters, or words to that affect, who will always fill the stands.
Aaahh but.....From how much to how much ?
Someone made a great post the other day - just tell him that we're going to leave him to rot in the reserves for another three years if necessary.
And then leave it to him and his slimeball agent to convince someone to pony up enough money to stop that rot.
I'l read whatever I want.
Perhaps you want him at tottenham.