I'm having real trouble relating to any of the players. Or the team, not because they are losing matches..seen many of those over the last 30 years, but it's their attitude. I've just never seen a united team with this collective attitude....
EL L Europa League Group A
Fenerbahce 2:1 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Thu, 03 November 2016
Its a good job this Tournament is beneath us
We have a big problem in away games.
Would rather watch the likes of Danny Drinkwater and Ryan Shawcross than all the mercenaries with no care
I thought we could build off the first half, but we were an absolute shit show in the second half, most of them don't want to dig in.
. Who would that be then, there are a few to pick from.Is it though?
Fun being a United supporter these days.
From a friend of mine:
Is Rooney really a captain? Sorry, but I'll always compare every captain to Roy Keane, and nobody apart from Gary Nev has come close. Keano would have scored that goal, and legged it to the goal picked the ball up and legged it back to the centre spot, motivating his team around him and lifted the spirits of everyone and terrifying the Turks. Rooney scores, drops his head, half arsed clap to the team, drops his head again.
Is Rooney really a captain? Sorry, but I'll always compare every captain to Roy Keane, and nobody apart from Gary Nev has come close. Keano would have scored that goal, and legged it to the goal picked the ball up and legged it back to the centre spot, motivating his team around him and lifted the spirits of everyone and terrifying the Turks. Rooney scores, drops his head, half arsed clap to the team, drops his head again.
Seems like we have to break all kinds of shit records before we'll turn this around.
Every game seems to be a different record we're breaking (and not in a good way).
Every game seems to be a different record we're breaking (and not in a good way).
On the plus side the American commentator on my stream was talking sense.
Agreed, they didn't care nothing
They are only interested to post bullshits on their social media, and take selfies with their new car.
I see only mercenaries
Dispiritingly poor and worrying. I see no sign Mourinho and this group of players have it in them to turn this around
Confidence looks shot. We're blundering from game to game. This is crisis form we're in.
Even more frustrating is that every opportunity we have to get back in the CL is being blown.
Even more frustrating is that every opportunity we have to get back in the CL is being blown.
I simply can't get over how shit our full-backs are. We have an overpriced, overweight player in Shaw who seems to be afraid of his own shadow. Darmian, who is so shockingly bad that he must wonder himself how the feck he is still at the club and the amounts of silly fouls he gives away is shocking. Then we have Valencia, who isn't a defender yet can safely be described as one of our best players this season. Then we have Blind who likes to do cameos at full-back but his lack of pace is really exposed at the wing. I'm probably forgetting about some £30m English superstar that we have bought over the last 24 months but can't be bothered to check.
Where did it all go so wrong?
Where did it all go so wrong?
At least Fenerbache dropped points.
The reaction - or rather lack of - of the team to the goal with >5 mins to go was baffling.
I'm feeling happy and I know why. I got to see the old Rooney!
The team is a work in progress and will take time to get better. For now, Mourinho has to first and foremost settle on his starting eleven and system. Take it from there.
The team is a work in progress and will take time to get better. For now, Mourinho has to first and foremost settle on his starting eleven and system. Take it from there.
Got to be worth changing the attack we can't keep going the same way. Ibra/Rooney don't get in behind and Martial/Rashford/Lingard don't offer enough creativity out wide. Got to be worth trying one of Rashford/Martial up top. We can't change much in midfield or defence but we can in attack.
depressingly accurate. Were embarrassed to score
Pogba has been the man behind almost everything that we've created this season even though he's had some mediocre games. We've looked absolutely shit without him. Mourinho hasn't got a clue about how to set up a team to attack. How long is he gonna stick with Rashford as a winger?
The away in the Ukraine is going to be really tough. We look really bad at the moment and we now have a lot of injuries. Guys like Darmian and Schneiderlin are going to be in the team for a while!
Good chance we're going out because I wouldn't back us in ANY away game right now, terrible away from home in the league, even worse Europe.
This team is a complete mess. Not one part of it is settled or functioning to a decent level. The attack, midfield and defence all look clueless in doing their jobs.
This team is a complete mess. Not one part of it is settled or functioning to a decent level. The attack, midfield and defence all look clueless in doing their jobs.
What the feck do we do in training?Same shit for 3 years.
Uninspiring performance, too slow and ponderous. Need some speed in our game, quick passing.
Three very good goals though, but a dismal match otherwise.
Something's not right with Luke Shaw. Few times didn't run back and rarely goes forward.
Three very good goals though, but a dismal match otherwise.
Something's not right with Luke Shaw. Few times didn't run back and rarely goes forward.
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Jose says we have two leftbacks playing CB.
Laughed when mkhitaryan came on right after the second goal.
" now is your chance son, one of the most hostile atmopsheres you'll ever play in, we are 2 behind and playing crap and you haven't even been on the bench in over a month . Go and get us back in the game "
Seriously should just have kept him on the bench.
The biggest disappointment for me this season is the sheer ineffectiveness of martial and shaw together on the left. I was absolutely convinced they would be an amazing left side but so far they have been non existent when played together.
Rojo played better than blind. Should really tell us all we need to know about tonight's performance.
" now is your chance son, one of the most hostile atmopsheres you'll ever play in, we are 2 behind and playing crap and you haven't even been on the bench in over a month . Go and get us back in the game "
Seriously should just have kept him on the bench.
The biggest disappointment for me this season is the sheer ineffectiveness of martial and shaw together on the left. I was absolutely convinced they would be an amazing left side but so far they have been non existent when played together.
Rojo played better than blind. Should really tell us all we need to know about tonight's performance.
I didn't want today's match to be spoiled, but I'm glad I did get it spoiled. Now I won't get to feel down after I've watched the recording. I'll probably delete the recording once I get home. 
We are shit.
God, they are an insufferable team though. The diving was something else. It even made Wayne Rooney get angry. He's not been angry at anything since he was angry and confused.
Regardless, I didn't give a stuff about the Europa at the start of the season. I was hoping we'd play the kids. We've played the first team, Pogba's injured, and we're still probably going out. Meh.
God, they are an insufferable team though. The diving was something else. It even made Wayne Rooney get angry. He's not been angry at anything since he was angry and confused.
Regardless, I didn't give a stuff about the Europa at the start of the season. I was hoping we'd play the kids. We've played the first team, Pogba's injured, and we're still probably going out. Meh.
Well that was frustrating. Hate to lose to a dirty play acting side like that, but that's what you get when you just don't have the quality in your play.
Seriously though, I just don't get why it's taking Mourinho so long to stamp his style of play onto these players. At previous clubs he's done it in a matter of weeks, at Utd it's been months now and there isn't any sign of progress to be seen. It can't be about individual quality either, we have plenty of players that have demonstrated their class at other clubs, but they're just not clicking. There's no teamwork, no game plan, no organisation.
I'm starting to think this season is another complete write-off. Nevertheless, I'd take that as long as it meant Mourinho managed to sort this mess out and finally get this side to play after these horrid years. I just want to have something to look forward to again.
Seriously though, I just don't get why it's taking Mourinho so long to stamp his style of play onto these players. At previous clubs he's done it in a matter of weeks, at Utd it's been months now and there isn't any sign of progress to be seen. It can't be about individual quality either, we have plenty of players that have demonstrated their class at other clubs, but they're just not clicking. There's no teamwork, no game plan, no organisation.
I'm starting to think this season is another complete write-off. Nevertheless, I'd take that as long as it meant Mourinho managed to sort this mess out and finally get this side to play after these horrid years. I just want to have something to look forward to again.
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Very poor performance, forget about being creative our innovative. Our play is resemblance of players who don't even care to do well in this competition, so lazy and slow in every aspect. Not bothering to track back quickly after giving away possession and not bothering to make runs to create some space while in possession.
I'm baffled as to what they do in training, there is no coherence or sequence to our passing. Our off the ball movement is shocking, it's one of major reasons why we don't score many goals because opposition know all they have to do is pack up the middle area of the pitch and we'll inevitably pass to our fullbacks who'll either make an aimless cross which will be cleared or they'll try to do something different and lose possession and from thereon we again expose ourselves to counter. Amateur stuff really at this level.
We've scored 13 in 10 matches in PL and 6 in 4 in Europa, these are such massive worrying signs because we look like we could concede at any moment. People have been crying to see Martial, Mata and Mkhi together on the pitch. They played for about half an hour tonight and didn't look like creating anything, nothing is working for us. Jose must be tearing his hair out as to how he can sort this mess.
I'm baffled as to what they do in training, there is no coherence or sequence to our passing. Our off the ball movement is shocking, it's one of major reasons why we don't score many goals because opposition know all they have to do is pack up the middle area of the pitch and we'll inevitably pass to our fullbacks who'll either make an aimless cross which will be cleared or they'll try to do something different and lose possession and from thereon we again expose ourselves to counter. Amateur stuff really at this level.
We've scored 13 in 10 matches in PL and 6 in 4 in Europa, these are such massive worrying signs because we look like we could concede at any moment. People have been crying to see Martial, Mata and Mkhi together on the pitch. They played for about half an hour tonight and didn't look like creating anything, nothing is working for us. Jose must be tearing his hair out as to how he can sort this mess.
The shit attitude in that dressing room needs sorting before we get any further.
Completely agree with these quotes. I hope it means we'll see a few youth players against Swansea. Tuanzebe, DJ Buffonge and even 16-year old Gomes would be fine. We might lose, but we'll fight.
Too many luxury players who only contribute when the rest of the team is functioning well.
Too many system players who only contribute when the rest of the team is functioning well.
Not enough players who can actually make us function well. Probably only Mata and, to a much lesser extent, Rooney and Hererra. A top side needs at least 3 or 4 amongst the front 6.
Too many system players who only contribute when the rest of the team is functioning well.
Not enough players who can actually make us function well. Probably only Mata and, to a much lesser extent, Rooney and Hererra. A top side needs at least 3 or 4 amongst the front 6.
Some shit individual performances tonight. No commitment from the lads on the pitch. Zlatan coming on a mistake it looks like. Fatigue is another thing, bringing the lads we did to Turkey - should of rested Pogba, Rash etc is also questionable to some extent. They've played in nearly every game.
Mourinho blaming other factors for his stupidity.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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19%
Ander Herrera
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14%
Anthony Martial
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8%
Juan Mata
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5%
Marcos Rojo
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4%
Paul Pogba
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3%
David de Gea
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3%
Henrikh Mkhitaryan
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3%
Matteo Darmian
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1%
Daley Blind
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1%
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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1%
Marcus Rashford
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1%
Morgan Schneiderlin
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1%
Luke Shaw
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 299 ratings.
Score Predictions
389,70,140
- Man Utd win
- Fenerbahce win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 21% Fenerbahce 1:2 Man Utd
- 16% Fenerbahce 1:1 Man Utd
- 12% Fenerbahce 0:1 Man Utd
- 12% Fenerbahce 0:2 Man Utd
- 10% Fenerbahce 1:3 Man Utd
- 6% Fenerbahce 0:0 Man Utd
- 6% Fenerbahce 0:3 Man Utd
- 3% Fenerbahce 1:0 Man Utd
- 3% Fenerbahce 2:0 Man Utd
- 2% Fenerbahce 2:1 Man Utd
- 2% Fenerbahce 5:0 Man Utd
- 2% Fenerbahce 2:2 Man Utd
- 2% Fenerbahce 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Fenerbahce 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Fenerbahce 3:0 Man Utd
- 1% Fenerbahce 3:1 Man Utd
- 1% Fenerbahce 0:4 Man Utd
- 0% Fenerbahce 5:5 Man Utd
- 0% Fenerbahce 4:5 Man Utd
- 0% Fenerbahce 5:2 Man Utd
- 0% Fenerbahce 1:4 Man Utd
- 0% Fenerbahce 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% Fenerbahce 3:3 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Fenerbahce
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 30% 70%
- Shots
- 8 9
- Shots on Target
- 4 3
- Corners
- 0 9
- Fouls
- 16 15
Referee
Milorad Mazic
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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replaced by Juan Mata
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replaced by Henrikh Mkhitaryan
