[Himannv]

Are you all for fecking real? No way was that on ETH. The players were not up for the fight and second best all over the pitch.

The players were poor, no doubt about that, but the manager has to take the blame for some of the decisions he made. Is he above criticism?

 

[Andersons Dietician]

Won't improve until we get Eriksen back this season and buy a couple of midfielders who can keep it better in the summer

Yeah he is a massive loss. His vision, pass choice and execution of pass is just miles beyond anyone else in the team. The sooner he is back the better. Just to give us some sort of controlled build up.

 

[christinaa]

When Keane was suspended/injured Fergie’s teams didn’t capitulate.

This shit show cannot be blamed on the absence of one player.

ETH needs to sort this shit out if he’s going to have a long term future here.

fergie had excellent reserves who could come in and play good football.
EtH can't do more presently.

 

[Bestofthebest]

PS. The stupid challenge by Shaw which led to the goal was childish beyond belief. He is prone to moronic acts like this.

 

[Compton22]

The players were poor, no doubt about that, but the manager has to take the blame for some of the decisions he made. Is he above criticism?

Again I ask, what decision could he have made that was so glaringly obvious that would have completely changed the dynamic of the game, save changing the entire team except De Gea which he can't do?

 

[Pscholes18]

PS. The stupid challenge by Shaw which led to the goal was childish beyond belief. He is prone to moronic acts like this.

He's a knuckle dragger.

 

[noodlehair]

The starting 11 today was dumb considering how astonishingly crap Sabitzer and Mctominay looked against Fulham. There was no reason to think it would be any different since neither of them all season have looked even remotely useful.

But then he doesn't change it for 80 minutes and when he dies makes a bunch of other subs that completely cripple the team.

Sorry but as well as ETH has done all season this is EXACTLY the sort of bollocks that lost Ole his job. Just completely and utterly ignoring what happens on the pitch even when it's so blatant it's painful.

Fred should be starting every game until one of Eriksen or Casemiro is back and even then he should only not be starting if both are back or if he's completely knackered.

Mctominay is out of sorts and not good enough and Sabitzer frankly is a complete fraud of a player. I've never seen a midfielder as anonymous and pointless as him.

 

[kouroux]

PS. The stupid challenge by Shaw which led to the goal was childish beyond belief. He is prone to moronic acts like this.

A needless push on a cornered player, 100% he was going dive at the slightest touch and 100% the FK would be awarded. You don't expect that from an experienced player really

 

[Baneofthegame]

A needless push on a cornered player, 100% he was going dive at the slightest touch and 100% the FK would be awarded. You don't expect that from an experienced player really

Players do this all the time, not sure it's limited to just Shaw.

 

[Woziak]

Today was a reality check, our squad needs 7 players, it always has. It’s not about discussing who we do and don’t need but we do need to make sure we win 7 of our last 11 PL games, something right now I would not bet on.

I said it a few weeks ago and got shot down that we are in a very real top 4 fight. When you take 1 point and concede 9 goals without scoring a goal you have problems. Most are caused by Weghorst and Antony, ETH can’t pick Sancho cause he’s no better whatsoever so right now he needs players working for the shirt and we need goals and creativity in the team. Next game is a very difficult game at home to an inform Brentford and is now a must win.

If Martial is fit he needs to be put in a room and told he’s playing for his future and he needs to produce asap. Jadon Sancho and Antony need the same treatment and Weghorst just needs to be told thanks for all your efforts but your going back to Burnley unless he can somehow start getting 7 or 8 goals in the last 11 games.

Dalot was awful again, Varane not much better, Bruno just wasteful and the team lacked mentality and pl experience. We need to be compact and expansive and pick this team;

D De Gea, AWB, Varane, Lindelof , Shaw, Martinez (CDM), Mctominay, Sabitzer, Bruno, Martial and Rashford in a 4-13-2 formation

 

[FreakyJim]

Ten Hag maybe fecked himself going all in for the shit cups with this squad.

Missing top 4 will be a disaster. We're looking like a spent team that's done for the season.

 

[kouroux]

Players do this all the time, not sure it's limited to just Shaw.

Plenty of them do it indeed. Low IQ play

 

[RuudTom83]

When Keane was suspended/injured Fergie’s teams didn’t capitulate.

This shit show cannot be blamed on the absence of one player.

ETH needs to sort this shit out if he’s going to have a long term future here.

Newcastle are no less than equal to United.

Was always going to be a tough away game.

But sure blame the manager if it helps you.

 

[Pickle85]

Is there anything more cringe than the video inside the dressing room for the team talk? I like Howe but ugh.

 

[Compton22]

Sky Sports slowly transitioning into Newcastle fan TV. Showing the post match team talk and celebrating when they haven't secured anything?

 

[Raoul]

Yeah, so much more effective, that's why we finished the game with 0 goals

Yes, part of the managers remit is to make the players up for it. But these players have shown time and time again under loads of managers that they are not at the required level and not up for the fight. When they have a bad day or decide to down tools, that is on them. ETH has done really well to get the results out of this team that he has. But they're not good enough, and never will be.

That's on ETH. We've more or less had the same players available. He just made the wrong decisions in selecting the right combination of them.

 

[Hughie77]

Not good enough, AWB was ill that was a set back, Mctom isn't good enough Sabitzer is another ordinary CM.. WW did nothing, Martial needs to stay fit... Rashford was hopeless Antony was just that few good moments, Martinez, Varane didn't deserve to concede 2 goals.. DDG again kept the score down that was it...

This was a RR performance absolutely rubbish.. If they do not get things right v Brentford were not getting a result there iether.. by the time Casimero is available we could be 5th at best stuck on 50pts .. we will imo need 70 at Least to get top 4.. I couldn't care less if we scrapped into 4th as long as we get it.. it gives us better chances of Transfers..

 

[Pickle85]

Sky Sports slowly transitioning into Newcastle fan TV. Showing the post match team talk and celebrating when they haven't secured anything?

So cringe.

Luke Shaw's post game interview he looks like a naughty schoolboy being told off.

 

[Compton22]

All well and good being honest, Luke, but WHY did they want it more than you? WHY did they show more passion?

 

[Woodzy]

Why are they showing the Newcastle post match dressing room? The media loving around Newcastle just seems weird.

Luke Shaw post match interview also very concerning. Had last season written all over it.

 

[Hughie77]

Sky Sports slowly transitioning into Newcastle fan TV. Showing the post match team talk and celebrating when they haven't secured anything?

There getting ready for back handers off them

 

[LUC1f3R]

Bruno as a captain when we are trailing is a joke. Captain should try to motivate the players, but Bruno usually shows no energy.
There were players way worse today, but a captain should do more for me.

 

[MackRobinson]

Newcastle are no less than equal to United.

Was always going to be a tough away game.

But sure blame the manager if it helps you.

If the manager gets credit for wins, why wouldn't he get criticism for losses?

 

[Berbasbullet]

Sky Sports slowly transitioning into Newcastle fan TV. Showing the post match team talk and celebrating when they haven't secured anything?

Did they really? What the

 

[IrishMcD]

Rashford back to walking around the place in between pathetic attempts to control the ball. Bruno offering zero leadership. Going nowhere with so many inflated egos, and relegation level talents like Weghorst, McTominay.... so few of these players who have been here a few seasons already, deserve to be at the club. They've shown themselves not to have the desire or talent to play for a club hunting big prizes

 

[Get In Scholesy]

PS. The stupid challenge by Shaw which led to the goal was childish beyond belief. He is prone to moronic acts like this.

I agree, totally stupid. However, these phantom fouls need to be cut out the game, it’s more gamesmanship than it is a foul.

 

[noodlehair]

Again I ask, what decision could he have made that was so glaringly obvious that would have completely changed the dynamic of the game, save changing the entire team except De Gea which he can't do?

He could have started Fred instead of sticking with the same midfield that made us look like a league 2 side at home to Fulham.

He could have not compounded this (actually very obvious) error, by refusing to change it for over 80 minutes despite us having no midfield all game.

He could also not have then compounded it further by bringing off both our centrebacks and Mctominay at the same time in order to bring on the supreme attacking threat of Pellistri and Lindelof.

He also could have left Antony on rather than waste a substitution deliberately ignoring the fact his midfield desperately needed changing.

I mean it's one thing to argue whether he's above fair criticism or not, but he's had an absolute fecking mare today to the point it almoat beggared belief by the end. Would be like saying you can't criticise a restaurant waiter after he spills all your food on your wife's face, smashes up your table tripping over his own shoelace, then for no reason goes outside and sets fire to your car.

If he'd started Fred over Sabitzer/Mctominay, and we'd still been just as shite, and then he'd changed it after an hour, and we'd still been just as shite, and then brought on Martial, Sancho, Pellistri without leaving us with a) no way to get the ball, and b) no way to not immediately concede if we didn't have it, then maybe we can start talking about the players. As it is he did none of these actually very obvious things which,in the case of the last 3 subs basically amount to little more than not deliberately sabotaging your own team.

This game was like having Oke in charge again. I find it hard to be too harsh on players when half of them juat aren't good enough and the other half are playing against their own manager due to his ignorant what's happening on the pitch.

I thought there were alarm bells when ETH claimed we played well against Fulham and based on the the team he picked and stuck with today he was actually, somehow, being serious when he said it.

He'll risk undoing all his good work if he pulls off shite like this a couple more times as players respecting and running through walls for a manager is based on them not thinking the manager has gone a bit bonkers.

 

[FreakyJim]

I feel like I've watched Luke Shaw give this interview a 1000 times before. Same shit every year. Yes, somehow we always end up the team that didn't "want it more". Bet he wants 350k a year though, or Rashford and 500k. Money - we want it more, I'm sure.

 

[Rightnr]

The biggest issue we have is that we
don't defend as a team. Our defence is great to good in some areas (Dalot and Shaw were average today) but our midfield was awful in winning and retaining possession.

Then we come to our attackers who, apart from Antony, just do not think it's their job to defend.

Rashford has always been like this but at least he's on fire in scoring. However, Sancho is basically a bigger English Mata. He's an absolute lightweight who cannot be bothered to run, defend or help his fullback. His mentality stinks and after today, I want to feck off.

 

[SirScholes]

This is really simple
we didn’t have Eriksen or Casemiro playing, our two first choice midfielders
The top of standard to mctominay is absolutely huge
Without them Bruno goes back to being the deep play maker and the no 10, he loses the ball so much when he’s asked to play deep

 

[Bubba123]

I don’t understand this “we miss Casemiro” or “we miss Eriksen” cop out. This wasn’t a performance that would’ve been any different with either or both of them. None of the players gave an impression that they were trying to win the game. Maybe they’re thinking top 4 is secure and there is nothing to play for. We can only hope they do better in the cups.
This sort of lack of effort performance has been the only constant in the team for the past 10 seasons and it’s no coincidence we’ve also not been close to the league title in that time

 

[NinjaZombie]

This is really simple
we didn’t have Eriksen or Casemiro playing, our two first choice midfielders
The top of standard to mctominay is absolutely huge
Without them Bruno goes back to being the deep play maker and the no 10, he loses the ball so much when he’s asked to play deep

Yeah. Doesn't help that Sabitzer, the guy brought in to paper over the loss of Eriksen is a non entity in centre midfield. Is he even a cm? He barely showed for the ball.

 

[RuudTom83]

If the manager gets credit for wins, why wouldn't he get criticism for losses?

Yup! they are no rules for when you wish to praise or criticise the managers…so fill your boots MackRobinson, I’m not stopping you.

 

[MikeKing]

The reason we lost was lack of urgency. It has been the cause to more than a few troublesome matches lately. We seem insistent on playing out from the back, and even if there is room to run into, our players simply don't react. They're stuck just doing the same old same old.

 

[glasgow 21]

Newcastle are no less than equal to United.

Was always going to be a tough away game.

But sure blame the manager if it helps you.

Agreed but this team today do not perform. Main issue was midfield was over run and progression through that was poor from min one. Now he the manager but Martinez can tackle , best a player, take a ball at pace and has a good pass, Play him in CDM, what is there to loose. Mctominay can't be on the pitch in any game in all true honesty. Yep were running out of gas in the first game back , alarm bells are ringing the poor transitions and all these little flicks that 100% of the time went to opposition.

 

[Kevzter]

Newcastle are no less than equal to United.

Was always going to be a tough away game.

But sure blame the manager if it helps you.

Oh yes they they should be.. Show me one Newcastle player that cost £70million compared to our squad (and this is being conservative).

Our players are driving Mclaren 765LT's...by the time they reach home they forget all about bad performances...

 

[Eyepopper]

Do the Newcastle team do a lap of honour every time they win a home game

 

[Compton22]

He could have started Fred instead of sticking with the same midfield that made us look like a league 2 side at home to Fulham.

He could have not compounded this (actually very obvious) error, by refusing to change it for over 80 minutes despite us having no midfield all game.

He could also not have then compounded it further by bringing off both our centrebacks and Mctominay at the same time in order to bring on the supreme attacking threat of Pellistri and Lindelof.

He also could have left Antony on rather than waste a substitution deliberately ignoring the fact his midfield desperately needed changing.

I mean it's one thing to argue whether he's above fair criticism or not, but he's had an absolute fecking mare today to the point it almoat beggared belief by the end. Would be like saying you can't criticise a restaurant waiter after he spills all your food on your wife's face, smashes up your table tripping over his own shoelace, then for no reason goes outside and sets fire to your car.

If he'd started Fred over Sabitzer/Mctominay, and we'd still been just as shite, and then he'd changed it after an hour, and we'd still been just as shite, and then brought on Martial, Sancho, Pellistri without leaving us with a) no way to get the ball, and b) no way to not immediately concede if we didn't have it, then maybe we can start juat talking about the players. As it is he did none of these actually very obvious things which,in the case of the last 3 subs basically amount to little more than not deliberately sabotaging your own team

Your kidding? Every 2nd pass from Fred is to an opposition player! If he'd have played him, people would have criticised him for that, he can't win. That's the only change he could make during the game and it would have made 0 difference to the game, so that's a nonsense.

Changing the forward line was pretty much his only option as he could not influence the game by changing the midfield or formation due to his lack of options, so changing Antony and Weghorst was pretty much his only option so that's also a nonsense.

The waiter analogy is pretty good but don't you think the waiter represents the players rather than the manager? The restaurant manager isn't bringing you out the food and chucking it all over you and in this example, the current restaurant manager didn't hire these waiters and for the past 8 months, has completed fairly decent dinner services up until now, so that, again, is a nonsense.

The reason he doesn't make these changes is because he KNOWS they won't work. The squad is threadbare and made up of players that aren't good enough and every fan who has watched us the past 6 years knows this. Are you seriously suggesting that he has to try things he and we deep down know won't work before you can bring yourself to say it is the players fault? That... is a nonsense.

 

[Denis79]

Well that was something... Wout was appalling, nice to see Martial back.

 

[Red Royal]

When Casemiro is out, with this squad seems we need to play with the three of them McT Fred and Sabitzer to avoid being overrun. I'd sacrifice Wout and play Bruno as false 9 or out wide.