Frank Grimes
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Dreadful first half, a lot better in the second half though we lacked the quality at the crucial moments. Onwards and upwards.
Yeah, the crowd is the problem.The crowd was a disgrace.. Bunch of entitled snowflakes(not all) and Valencia fans took over pretty easily.
Shitting on the fans who bother to go and pay their hard earned money is a bad move. They should be rewarded for even turning up at the moment.The crowd was a disgrace.. Bunch of entitled snowflakes(not all) and Valencia fans took over pretty easily.
If the rest of our games are anything like tonight then the less games we play in any competition the better , at least while Jose the interpreter is in charge . Awful drudge .Maybe we had few decent moments, but it wouldn’t be good enough even for a much less ambitious (nevermind expensive) bunch of players. Depressing game, never really felt like controlling the game, very erratic on both sides. Painful to watch and it will be tough to make it through group stage.
He's clearly fantastic at certain aspects of his job, he's just got no right to be anywhere near the football side of things and that's been obvious for years.Woodward is the same guy who helped the Glazers in their takeover of the club. In return for his efforts he got the position he currently has at the club. He is fantastic at bringing finance into the club, and his efforts are the envy of most other clubs with United becoming a financial giant, possibly the most valuable club on the planet. However, this has not been seen on the pitch as of yet. And we can only hope that the future will see United become as powerful on the pitch as they are off it.
I left early & I was watching a stream.Shitting on the fans who bother to go and pay their hard earned money is a bad move. They should be awarded for even turning up at the moment.
I dunno, i reckon caretakers are generally given a lot more leeway then actual managers.I don’t like that idea because it can damage the reputation of the poor sod inheriting the shambles e.g. Giggs after Van Gaal
What a weird angle to take. I presume you're bored of slagging off the team and manager, so now you want to bad mouth the supporters? Desperate times.At least make an effort to make it a home-game.. Not sit around and mope looking like a average Brit..
He's gone full MoyesJose actual thinks Valencia was a good opponent? Thinks we could not lose? Thinks we raised the bar? Did enough but could not score. He's lowered the bar of expectations so much in 6 weeks. What will we look like in another 6 weeks under him?
Exactly, and that right now is one of our biggest problems, we have seen it many times now. Maybe a DOF will help, but only time will tell if the correct decisions are made in the interest of the football side of things.He's clearly fantastic at certain aspects of his job, he's just got no right to be anywhere near the football side of things and that's been obvious for years.
He is clearly not a player that would be a part of a top United team.Felt like Lukaku was single handedly responsible for fecking up our entire match. Static, and mostly offside, is pretty much how I'd describe his performance.
Mate there is nothing there to cheer at all. The players aren't even trying. OT has become so toxic due to our teams lack of urgency and our setup is a mess . There wont be long until the people you are slating wont show up at all. Mourinho needs to go and this place needs a positive approach for our next manager.The crowd was a disgrace.. Bunch of entitled snowflakes(not all) and Valencia fans took over pretty easily.
Since when did wanting something become entitlement? I want many things from life, but I understand that I'm not entitled to them.Mate, I’m not the one tellling everyone that I am not going to watch the team anymore. There ain’t any loyalty of yours to question. You can question my loyalty if you wish, but as a season ticket holder who ensures my space is filled for every minute of every game, I’m quite relaxed.
Don’t claim you don’t feel entitled to anything, then start a paragraph with “all I want”, after previously posting that you are no longer going to watch the team for not fulfilling that. That’s entitlement.
Next you’ll be spouting some shit about no individual being bigger than the club, all the while not watching the team because of one man.
Not many of ours players would be starters for Valencia.. I love how we overrate our players.Jose actual thinks Valencia was a good opponent? Thinks we could not lose? Thinks we raised the bar? Did enough but could not score. He's lowered the bar of expectations so much in 6 weeks. What will we look like in another 6 weeks under him?
Not many of ours players would be starters for Valencia.. I love how we overrate our players.
The "special" one.Which fraud?
Soon to be The Special GoneThe "special" one.
Can he please take all players with him except Shaw and Degea?Awful awful awful. Boring, laboured, flat, passionless, spineless....disgrace but for Rashfords effort. Its now a matter of when Jose is booted, not IF. Got to happen now, and I mean right now.
I heard David Moyes’s daughter said differently to Wilf (allegedly).He's gone full Moyes
You never want to go full Moyes.
This has been obvious for some years now, particularly on the flanks and in defence. Pogba and Matic have fixed our midfield, and the signings of Lukaku and Ibra made our striker area lethal ( even though Lukaku is clearly suffering from being so isolated in this 433). The combination of our full backs and wingers have been horrible for years, since LVG came in. In a 433, the creativity of the team is supposed to be provided mainly from the flanks, is it any surprise that we are suffering at the moment to score. Luckily Shaw has come on this season, and Dalot is a very interesting prospect which could help solve our full back areas.I am starting to get the impression that our team is just average. As much Is I did not want jose in charge from day one, I think all the flak he is getting is taking away the the below average performances that individuals are putting in.
We are looking at YEARS before we can expect to challenge for the big honours. We are leagues behind the top teams, the clubs run properly. YearsDisappointing to drop pts at home again , I don't think we lacked effort but there is a worrying lack of quality throughout the squad. We look a long way competing for big honours.
We lack the most vital component of a top team, or any team....a standout leader on the field. There isn't one. Pogba thinks he is but isn't good enough nor deserves it. Valencia doesn't do anything as a captain. We lack that special someone to take charge on the pitch. Wouldn't even need to be a world class player, just someone with the heart and love for the club. This is not a teamThis has been obvious for some years now, particularly on the flanks and in defence. Pogba and Matic have fixed our midfield, and the signings of Lukaku and Ibra made our striker area lethal ( even though Lukaku is clearly suffering from being so isolated in this 433). The combination of our full backs and wingers have been horrible for years, since LVG came in. In a 433, the creativity of the team is supposed to be provided mainly from the flanks, is it any surprise that we are suffering at the moment to score. Luckily Shaw has come on this season, and Dalot is a very interesting prospect which could help solve our full back areas.
As for the defence, this has been a problem since Vidic and Ferdinand left the club. None of our defenders have the composure, confidence, bravery and technique to play out of the back, this means we have a slow build up, not due to tactics, but rather as a result of lack of quality. The truth is, in an ideal scenario, all of the centre backs at the club would be sold for a pair of quality central defenders that are at least average in all these aspects.
Nail on the head.Empty seats,empty performance,empty management,this club has lost its soul thanks to the current ownership model,lock stock and barrell!
Disagree, with the right appointment and recruitment we could be competing in the 2020/2021 season. We do need the right man in now though, so that we can use the next season and what's left of this one to find out what's, what in our squad.We are looking at YEARS before we can expect to challenge for the big honours. We are leagues behind the top teams, the clubs run properly. Years
Slavko Vincic