2-1 Maddison
Premier League Game week 6
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Look at Man United; pure comedy!
No I wouldn't. I said the narrow handball that went in our favour vs City was bollocks too.
Admit it, if it was the other way round, you'd be claiming that it was a technically correct call.
No advantage was conveyed in either situation. VAR shouldn't be there to check whether a bit of shirt is offside or if a ball brushes the hand slightly, it should be there to make clear cut decisions.
In some situations they're ridiculously harsh with decisions and in others it gets waved off. It's a joke.
They were crap at the back end of last season too, an unlikely Champions League final and the pitiful form of United and Arsenal drew attention away from it.
I guess someone will be off to India today.
Has there ever been another player in english football with 3 umlauts in his surname?
Is Lo Celso shit or something? Where is he?
Injured
It’s been off since January. Their form since then has been awful.
Both offside same resultImagine thinking that the very clearly offside goal Leicester scored (you could see he was offside with one glance and there was genuine advantage from him being in that position) is comparable to a decision that took several minutes to make because they had to zoom in and specifically check whether Son's shoulder was 2mm offside.
....and they said 1-0 win against Leicester is underwhelming.
In defence I can understand but there's no zip to your attack either, it's very slow and labored. I honestly do feel Eriksen has caused a lot of trouble for the club behind the scenes, and it's not helping the squad.
You guys should've binned him in the summer, that sort of attitude can be troublesome in a dressing room with many emerging talents.
We've been fine today. We were the most ridiculously harsh call ever away from being 2-0 up away to Leicester.
Maddison's goal was a combination of his brilliance and Gazzaniga having a bad day. Our form overall is terrible (particularly away) but the performance today has been good. Leicester are a good team.
Maddison's goal was a combination of his brilliance and Gazzaniga having a bad day. Our form overall is terrible (particularly away) but the performance today has been good. Leicester are a good team.
Is the manager blameless because it's Poch?
Makes no sense.
Let's pretend the margin would be your suggested 5-10cm. If someone is 11cm offside VAR would have to draw a line to see if it was within the 10cm margin and we have the same discussion again because it was only 1cm outside the "clear error margin".
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Of course, he's the caf's new darling who can do no wrong.
2 of them at United from 2020
Lets go for Leicester's spine.
Maguire - Check
Ndidi - Pending
Maddison - Pending
Maguire - Check
Ndidi - Pending
Maddison - Pending
Agree that the system is inconsistent at the moment, but if it was 1mm offside, it is 1mm offside. Your argument that it wasn't THAT much offside simply cannot be used when using technology.
Having said that, they have to improve how they show the lines and make it more precise the way it is done in tennis and cricket.
Both of you are right, they have been on a shit run of form for few months now.
Still trying to bat for Ole in a thread with nothing to do with him?
Of course, Poch is to blame for this poor run of form. A manager has to be held accountable at the end of the day.
But the world class stadium.
Doubt we'll be able to get Kane and Sterling.2 of them at United from 2020
Gotta love Spurs
There's no zip in part because the fullbacks are very poor (today was by far the best performance by our FB group all season, and it wasn't great) and Poch's system has always relied heavily on the fullbacks providing width. It's also in part because our CM's have to be so protective of our shaky center halves.
Who mention Ole?Both of you are right, they have been on a shit run of form for few months now.
Still trying to bat for Ole in a thread with nothing to do with him?
Of course, Poch is to blame for this poor run of form. A manager has to be held accountable at the end of the day.
Id prefer 32 of them at United from 2020
Soyuncu is raw but he has a lot of good attributes.
Poor from Brendan. Should have taken off Maddison after injury. What a player though. Give him the ball and he'll try to make something happen.
Disappointing result, we really should have won that.
They've been poor since the start of last season. First six months the results covered it up then the riddled by luck run to the CL final did but now with nothing to hide behind the full extent of their stagnation is there for all to see.
Night and day performance and effort in space of a week.
Both goals were offside.
To be fair, VAR screwed you over. I'd be fuming if it was against us.
He's 1mm offside with a part of his body he can't even use and no advantage is conveyed to the attacker. He's clearly level. If you have to zoom in and check for a few minutes to spot something is offside, then it's not worth giving the decision because what possible advantage does the attacker have?
Common fecking sense has to be applied to these situations rather than blanket statements like 'if he's offside he's offside'. I'd feel the same way if it was a neutral game, there's no way goals should be disallowed in these sort of scenarios.
Duh! Maddison and Sancho obvs
How would you decide what gives an advantage or not in that case ?
Why is it 1 cm shoulder and not 2 ? why not 5 cm ?
What if the player was 50 cm offside but not facing the goal ? i'd argue that this is less advantageous than being 1cm offside but facing the goal. How would you decide that ?
it's important that there is as little things open to interpretation as possible.
So something's not quite right at Spurs, and they have been shit, but we should keep tabs on their manager.
Makes sense..
I don't get all this love for him.
No mate he meant Sancho and Maddison! Lol
The Vardiola no goal and the second second half against Ajax have really changed the narrative of their season last year. Funny how much of a difference little things can make