Not a pen.. and Richarlason stopped during the run up.. everything about it was wrong. what the actual feck.
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That's never a penalty..
If the ball doesn't hit the hand of Ward, and it gets to Richarlison, he's offside. Shouldn't that be considered as well?
Never a penalty, but after last week Karma for Palace...
We gotta sign ourselves some double amputees to play in defence.
It’s actually not. It’s technically great refereeing, because the job of the referee is to enforce the rules.
Its the handball rule that is disgraceful.
You can stop during a run up. Since when is that not a thing? What you cant do is stop once you've started your shooting motion which is what Neymar used to do back in the day and eventually had to stop it.
The problem is the new handball rules, it does not consider intent by a player.
If the ball hits a player who has made their body "unnaturally bigger" then a foul will be awarded.
Ah. ok. thought it wasnt allowed. checked the rules.. feinting during the run up is fine.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Going to be a hell of a lot of penalties this season.
Palace bitching because they have a penalty awarded against them for dodgy handball
Pen incident - VAR - Richarlyson 1:2
You're the the 4th person who said this, making me doubt myself, but I honestly don't get it.
Here's the handball rule straight out of the 20/21 laws of the game:
Which part of that makes it handball?
I'd say he has not made his body untaurally bigger, his arm is exactly exactly where you'd expect it to be for balance etc. and that he hasn't deliberately touched it with his hand/arm. His arm is obviously not above shoulder height.
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You love to see it.
Handball laws are a farce. Just aim for arms, teams should start investing in strait-jackets for their defenders, joke of a direction for the rules.
The interpretation has to have been that both Lindelhof and Ward made their bodies unnaturally bigger. I don't think that's fair in either case but it can't be anything else.
It's definitely worth trying to smack it against an opponent's hand/lower arm now, as all it takes is for their hand/arm to be in a slightly different position away from their side and it's given.
I would say there could be a distance rule, but then one - how do you measure it, and two - today's Maupay one was point blank range, but was a pen as he was waving his hand at it.
I would say there could be a distance rule, but then one - how do you measure it, and two - today's Maupay one was point blank range, but was a pen as he was waving his hand at it.
Agreed. The referees have meetings after each weekend so they'll have discussed the Lindelof incident. Their collective interpretation of the law seems to be that what both players did is making the body unnaturally bigger. It's obviously bullshit and not fair so there will probably be another change of rules for next season.
I'd be fuming if the pen was given against us, it shouldn't be, but obviously has been seen to be in the eyes of the rules.
It's exactly what you pointed out. Making the body "unnaturally" bigger. Apparently your hand has to be close to your body silhouette as if extending your body shape outwards. Once your hand is in its own position and the ball hits it, then it's considered hand ball. I personally feel like this rule is an awful one because in this case, we can see that clearly his position is as natural as they come at least when it comes to defending. Whats going to end up happening is that everyone in the box will start to put their hands behind their backs even if it's not the natural thing to do for balance and maneuverability.
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Interesting to see Silva as captain (it's usually Azpi or Jorginho).
Interesting... a 36-yr old Thiago Silva walks straight into the team as captain.
Caballero 
Wait, how is Christensen playing? He got red carded against Liverpool?
If Ward was handball than DCL was handball as well
Nah, he played on Weds and was not captain. He's earned it.
...and that's why the handball rule is silly.
Was suspended against Barnsley.
Served his suspension in the Carabao Cup?
Four academy players playing today, one selected over the club captain.
These post predicting us to suddenly start ignoring them aren't ageing well so far!
These post predicting us to suddenly start ignoring them aren't ageing well so far!
To be fair, 23 of your summer signings doesn't seem to be match fit
Ah, forgot that.
Palace looking better in the latter stages, need to step it up a bit.
It's so unfair. 100% of your signings are fit!
In his contract?
I very much doubt it. He was not captain the other day.
There's not really any other "captains" in that side today. Maybe Willy?
I get your point but he has played like 200 minutes since March or something ridiculous
My Willy is always my captain
.GK as captain is silly. Thiago has biggest influence on that pitch i suspect. Decent choice
Great win for Everton, sort of game they'd have slipped up in recent seasons.