Villa were really impressive today but they have significantly over-achieved against their underlying metrics with Emery. Will still be interesting to see how they look next season, Premier League is absolutely stacked at the top half right now.
Race for top 4 | Finito.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Amen, brudda/sisterWhat a day for uswe had better make it count tomorrow.
Must win tomorrow with others dropping points
Did say last week that Tottenham beating Brighton was a good result for us
Today was brilliant. Takes a lot of pressure off. If we win tomorrow we’re in a really strong position to qualify for the champions league.
It would have been more of a must win if they didn't drop points.
That's what I was going to say.
Surely if others won, it'd make it more "must win" for us?
I don’t agree, the pressure is still massive. We have spurs, Villa and Brighton next three after Forest. Pressure is on, and tomorrow is a must win.
4 more wins should be enough.
I feel like it's a freaking title race. I want top 4 so bad. I'm such a mental wimp about this stuff.
The good thing about the annual chucklefeck that is "the race to see who wants to feck up getting 4th the least ineptly" is that we're actually IN 4th this time, rather than one of teams outside comically failing to capitalise in an exhausting rollercoaster of hope and despair. Which is a huge advantage when this time of year rolls around. Because the teams around 5-8th will invariably feck up several times...which is why they're the teams in 5-8
And it never will. Welcome to the life of the majority of football fans. I'm actually surprised that some people are surprsed by this?! Its always been like this.
Oh i'm fully expecting us to drop points nowWhat a day for us
Newcastle must beat Tottenham and Everton that’ll be 9 ahead hopefully, not a Newcastle fan but want them top 4 as would be something different.
The different would be Brighton and not another state backed club in top four.
Amazing day for us...almost too good to be true. We have to seize this opportunity and take it to Forest tomorrow.
It'd be great if Spurs and Newcastle draw now.
It'd be great if Spurs and Newcastle draw now.
So you don’t want Man Utd there then? Was meaning different by different teams in top 4
At this point, Villa are likelier to make top 4 since their fixture list is decent. Brighton and Newcastle have some tough games to finish the season.
Nice try, but we’re not state owned. The club hasn’t been sold yet.
Spurs away is one of our most winnable away games left of the season and I think a win there would just about seal it as long as we keep up the good form at home. Need to win tomorrow and away at Spurs and then I can't see us not getting top 4. I don't understand the fear of playing Spurs away. They haven't been good all year. Of course we could lose but to be honest Villa at home looks a much harder game. If we can beat Spurs and Forest and somehow manage to eek any sort of result at Brighton and we're fine.
I would prefer Leeds over Newcastle in the top 4. Even Liverpool. Just anyone bar them.
Regardless if they achieve top four this year or not, they will eventually do it. But the latter the better.
I suggest you to visit your closest bookie ASAP if that's how you see things.
Big big BIG opportunity for us tomorrow, and I hope we take it. Going to be tough without Rashford, Varane and Licha, but at least we seem to have an interested Martial back, and Eriksen and Casemiro.
I have a feeling we will drop points tomorrow since Spurs and Newcastle dropped points today
Villa are just a point ahead of Brighton with two games less to play, they would be a great story after poor start to season but their chances are slim.
Brighton don’t actually have that difficult of a fixture list. I am pretty sure they will beat us at home and after that game their toughest one will be at Arsenal where they probably won’t win. All their remaining fixtures are quite winnable.
Similarly I don’t think Newcastle’s schedule is that difficult. That’s why I’m so glad they dropped points today as otherwise we’d be feeling even more pressure.
To be fair we couldn’t have wished for a better position to be in. We’ve basically got a free hit in 2 games in hand which if we lost both we’d still be 3 points ahead of spurs.
If we blow it from here we really don’t deserve top 4.
I wouldn’t be concerned about Spurs at all. They are going to travel to Newcastle, Liverpool and Villa in their remaining games and I can’t see them winning any of these. Their home games are against United, resurgent Palace and Brentford and won’t be walks either. Villa and Brighton are probably going to finish above them.
Brighton have City, Arsenal, United and Villa away left. I’d love them to get 4th (assuming United get 3rd) but it’s going to be tough for them.
Brighton's games in hand are Newcastle (a) and Man City (h). Would say that both are pretty tough.
Forgot about City. However the United game is at home for them so they should have a good chance there, and Villa away will be 50/50. Can’t see them winning at Emirates or Etihad though and they probably won’t win at Newcastle either.
No offence to anyone here but I would expect Man Utd fans to list Newcastle (a) as a tough game.
massive results today for us in the CL race....3 points tomorrow and we'd have to really fuk up to miss out of the top 4
Definitely a tough game for any team in the League.
Think because it hasn't been rescheduled yet, people don't realize that Brighton have to go to Newcastle still.
Brighton have to play City and Newcastle as well. Villa away also very tough.
Tottenham have Newcastle, us, Liverpool and villa away in their next 5 games.
The Newcastle game alone has at least one of them dropping points. We should win tomorrow but a must is a stretch given our points or games in hand advantage over our competition
This
Great day for us yesterday, hopefully we can cement our place today with a win of any kind. If not, we’re still one game closer to top 4 being secured due to the poorness of those around us.
Brighton isn’t going to make it, and you can quote me on that. Newcastle have the easier fixtures, and is 7 pts ahead even though they’ve played a game more. They and Utd can both afford several losses/draws to finish on 70/71 pts, while Brighton need basically title winning form to finish on the same point tally.
Ref massively fecked them against Spurs last week, those 3 pts made a huge difference, so did them losing to the Barcodes before that.
I fell that making top 4 this year is more important than it has ever been. With Arsenal back in the game and the financial power of Newcastle, the battle for top 4 will be so much harder in the next years, and making top 4 this year and use that as a leverage to attract the players we need to become title challengers is an absolute must.