That whole Nickelback album (Silver Side Up) is actually pretty decent. Some good tunes on it, and they didn't take themselves too seriously. For post-grunge hard rock gravelly-voiced fare, they were right up there.
The National Anthem is the best song in the live set. Groove.
Not especially.
I've never taken them seriously. Well, maybe when I was younger, I thought "when you remind me" was a great song. But generally, I know they're candy floss rock that aim at making a catchy tune rather than anything with real depth. But I've been surprised at how bad they've gotten at that too recently. I mean, if you're making catchy tunes for a wide audience, then do it well ffs. The songs I've heard of theirs over the last few years sound incredibly rubbish.
As good as the Pumpkins were they only had two, maybe three albums in them.
In my opinion they are beyond 'great' lyricists.
It's not really about being "great lyricists" more about being wholly relevant or connective and Ok Computer is a great example. The album summed up how a chunk of people felt about modern life, the barminess but also the banality of it all.
That's not true, they were very raw lyrically when they came out, after all they were what 20? Their lyrics have matured with each album, how and what they sang about in Whatever People Say I am is completely different to what they sang about in Suck it and See. They've gone on a completely different direction with their last two albums that may have lost them some of their more mainstream fanbase but to say they don't sell records anymore is nonsense.
It means we've got one. A real, live one.
Yes but radio head are equally unrelevant these days, ok computer is over ten years old now no?
Which was shocking IMO, given that Separator is comfortably in the top 5 Radiohead songs.
I don't think Yorke is very good with words at all. He's great at making random phrases sound good, but I think people often ascribe meaning to their words that in reality isn't there (but seems there, due to how they sound, if that makes any sense.) The classic example being 'Everything in its Right Place,' a song which sounds positively Orwellian, despite Yorke banging on about sucking on lemons.
I could understand the first album to a point. It was basically a batch of conversations and teenage, early twentysomething observations strung over some fairly average, consistently similar melodies. The lyrics i could get....I understood what the fuss might be about.
That pretty much summed up KOL for me. For the most part, it just sounded like some stoned student pissing about in his bedroom.
I think you're going into the territory of stating your opinion as fact. Personally I prefer SIAS to all their other albums and there are others out there who hold the same view. I did enjoy their early stuff, but a lot of it was fairly basic. It was more or less just observational lyrics sang in a Yorkshire accent.
If anything, surely with the release of Humbug and SIAS, with such a shift in tone and tempo what he actually did was risk losing some of his fanbase. Which he did. A lot of people enjoyed the 'laddish' nature of the early material...he's gone from talking about pimps and cnutish bouncers to describing women as being as rare as a 'can of dandelion and burdock'. I don't think you can accuse him of "churning out anything as long as the fan base buys it".
Well that's hardly fair, Noel Gallagher carries with him a legion of Oasis fans, it's not really a bad reflection on the Arctic Monkeys that Suck it and See sold less than Noel's debut offering. On top of that SIAS sold more than Humbug. And further yet, they are never going to match the sales of their first album (which correct me if I'm wrong is still the fastest selling debut album by a band). May I also add that whilst I liked Noel's album it was more or less all the same drivel, it was like the sound of Don't Look in Anger raping Importance of being Idle over and over again.
They might be great lyricists (I really don't know) but why do such "beyond great" lyricists stick to such lame and cliched themes? "feck the world because it's a giant conspiracy taking us all down an evil path" sounds like something a teen grunge band would write songs about. Are you sure that was a theme they stuck to for a bit?
Contender for the worst album name ever though. Cosmit has a point too, indie has died during Turner's reign as its king.
Indie is dead in the water over here. Good new acts are just not coming through.
Well in America it is flourishing imo.
Harsh grades!
Hard to beat Dimebag, just put on one of their cd's in the car earlier. Great band. I do love Radiohead though. OK Computer is near the top of my favorite albums.
I already mentioned Tool, my favourite band, for me, they are vastly superior to Radiohead in every way.
True. Radiohead definitely have better knitwear.
Please don't.
I don't really get how they can be compared (I like both Tool and Radiohead.) It's like saying Paul Scholes is far superior to Rio Ferdinand.
I am aware of the possible irony Mockney. Did I accuse Radiohead fans of pretentious waffle though? I suppose I could have made a post giving Tool songs school grades, that would have been selling them somewhat short though.
