You say "the players" as if we've had the same squad playing like crap and not looking bothered under Van Gaal, Mourinho and Solskjaer. Six of last night's XI never even played under the first two, and of our two worst performers on the night, one (Fernandes) was our best player by a mile for 18 months under Solskjaer and the other (Ronaldo) is one of the greatest, most professional and driven players ever to play the sport.
The players aren't the constant, unless we've just repeatedly been signing the wrong personalities for 8 seasons now. Or everyone that comes in has been indoctrinated by De Gea and Jones.
Yeah, we were crap last night and against Norwich and we've been crap most of the season. We've just brought a new manager in and his first month has been significantly disrupted - we're trying to change things up tactically and it's clearly not being translated onto the pitch at the moment, and the players are looking crap and whinging at one another. The solution is to keep working on the training ground and trust the coach to get a tune out of the squad, not to say "sod it, toss a bunch of 18-year-olds into the Premier League because they'll put in a shift".
He isnt judging on one game though the posted you quoted I would have thought.
Jones, Lingard and I believe Pereira have been here when Ferguson was still in charge, pure madness, could barely put together a season of good performances between the three of them
Mata I believe at the time was a club record signing from Moyes time in charge. As much as I like his personality and loyalty, again what has he done in his time here, how is he still here when clearly he is past his best, which did nothing to warrant a record signing
Luke Shaw was a Van Gaal signing, he is a bit of an exception as he had his injuries in which he had a great spell before and he was very good last season, but even he has been here a long time now and shown no consistency. Remember he was a record for an English teenager or something at the time. Maybe beingn a bit harsh there but MArtial was an absolutely huge signing under Van Gaal and had a Ballon Dor clause in his contract wich is laughable now, how is he still here?
And remember we are pretty much a good three seasons now since Mourinhos last games at the club, yet there are still a whle host of players from his time at the club Bailly, Lindelof, Dalot and Fred cost us £130m odd none have really exceeded average at best. The only one still here who I think did well was Matic whose legs went a long time ago and I wont even go into club record signing Pogba who is still here and now likely to leave on a free.
Thats twelve players who have been here all before Ole took over up to nearly eight seasons ago, over half of them shouldnt be here without doubt for me yet over 2/3 of them are still gettign regular playing time and 1/3 of them are regular starters.
And this isnt even bring up some of the youth bought into the club via Van Gaal and Mourinho who are starters and should be no more than valuable squad members in my opinion.
So for me, yes there are a lot of players should be looked at in this squad who hav ebeen here a while as well os Ole signings for me. Gettign rid of players not good enough to wear the jersey and gettign rid of players who maybe are but hav enever shown any cnsitency over a few seasons to warrant it either is paramount to me. We have been poor moving players on quick enough in numbers, partly as we have made bad signings replacing them and its been a bit of a cycle.
I do agree with you that throwing kids in now isnt the answer though
