R'hllor
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Damn, people really lost their shit due United not taking a bitch role like last few participations in CL.
There is no universe where RR did worse than Ole, also trying to compare them out of context is also next level stupid.Rangnick is a huge own goal for United. He is hired as a manager, even though he is over 60 years old and still has not proven himself as a great manager. He does it worse than Solskjær, can not handle the players and clearly can not put a team tactically.
When he finally has to start in his original position, he chooses to take an extra job, which is otherwise usually a full-time job for everyone else. As I see it, his job as national coach is not compatible with the job at United. United need an employee who focuses exclusively on the club and how it is returning to its greatness.
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Ralf Rangnick could tell you the specifications of his favourite model of shredder vs it’s competitors.I have zero doubt that Ralf has a collection of label printers.
There's the multiverse and you must be in an alternate one f you really believe that. Worst points total in the PL era? And worst win rate post Fergie. Facts don't lie.There is no universe where RR did worse than Ole, also trying to compare them out of context is also next level stupid.
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That is make-believe to offer some comfort from the results on the pitch. A "player assessment" could easily be achieved through other means than being responsible for the outcome of the latter half of the seasonthat’s just one possible objective for an interim manager. The other, in this case more probable one, is discussed at length in this thread/this page.
What on earth is this...?I'm so glad he's taken this role. He can feck off to Austria. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up waiting at the end of his phone for United to call him. His consultancy role has been exaggerated beyond belief and has managerial has been a monumental flop. His input will be minimal going forward, which is fine by me.
He was never fully committed to the United gig, so feck him.
I mean, it isn’t.Cox is a cnut but this is actually spot on.
Then why the feck is there so much vile against the man if he's gone in 3 games never to he seen again? The club seem to be ripping up the blueprint of the last decade starting with hiring potentially one of the best up and coming managers around. If Ralf has even a minimal part in getting us back on track then fair play to him. All this feck off Ralf out of my club bullshit is pure agenda driven nonsense covering for the obvious inadequacies from the last manager and the state he left the club in.They're deluded mate. They've been sucked in by his press conference comments. He'll probably spend a day briefing Ten Hag and the board then after that I wouldn't even say one day a week. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a one hour Zoom call a month.
Um, well yeah, that's why managers lose their jobs isn't it? You were happy to see Solskjaer go weren't you? Mourinho got sacked, LVG got sacked. Moyes got sacked. Yet for some reason, it's not Rangnick's fault?What on earth is this...?
His coaching is not working because the players have proven over and over again that they are garbage morons that lack any pride or mental strength. They have downed tools over and over again but yes it's the coaching alright.
I guess you just don't know what his role is then.They're deluded mate. They've been sucked in by his press conference comments. He'll probably spend a day briefing Ten Hag and the board then after that I wouldn't even say one day a week. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a one hour Zoom call a month.
You are literally making things up.His role is to help us change the club culture and structure, he has had 6 months looking at it from top to bottom of how we are run and the playing staff.
He has reviewed it and has said 2 scouts need to go, you need this type of manager and here is a sporting director that can help with recruitment.
Yep, the scouts left was a lie and they are still there.You are literally making things up.
Except that’s not the lie is it? You said Rangnick reviewed the club and said 2 scouts needed to go, which you have absolutely no way of knowing and wasn’t reported by a single reputable source.Yep, the scouts left was a lie and they are still there.
Yes, that's what I said. If you actually look how this has come about you will know.Except that’s not the lie is it? You said Rangnick reviewed the club and said 2 scouts needed to go, which you have absolutely no way of knowing and wasn’t reported by a single reputable source.
Nahhhhhhh.Cox is a cnut but this is actually spot on.
Apparently, you cannot do two jobs at once and have to physically be in the Manchester office to make a difference.Are people that stupid that they don't realise that a guy who hasn't reached retirement age might want to do more than six days of work in a month? I mean, if the consultancy was agreed upon and those were the premises, then surely there would be room for him taking another job during the other 24 days of the month? Or do people really think that the club thought they were hiring him full-time and now he's broken that agreement?
I'd put money on the board thinking all the coaches including Carrick would have stayed on till the end of the season at least.We have hired an odd bunch of coaches, a mixture of the clearly not good enough and clearly past their best
No doubt the players are also a big issues but the managers have also been a big part of the problem
So you made something up.Yes, that's what I said. If you actually look how this has come about you will know.
1. Murtough visited Rangnick a few years ago and was impressed at the set up at Red Bull clubs
2. Murtough took advice from Rangnick in the past
3. Murtough brought Rangnick to this club to help us shape in the right way.
4. Rangnick has been critical of various things at the club and how its run
Its no surprise he talks about recruitment and two head scouts have left. Obviously its not oh these 2 are rubbish sack them, it would have been a review with the other board members and a collective decision that a change in strategy is required.
It is also no secret that the board loved Poch, Rangnick has championed for ETH and we got him as manager.
He is still in the job and you dont know what he is leaving behind for Ten Hag. Important decisions are made currently based on his experience i imagine. Then we will only need him for his advice as external consultant.I thought the whole point of getting him as an interim was so that he would be a consultant in the stuff he's actually good at next season.
If he isn't doing this / the supposed role he is being offered is minimal - why did we choose him as an interim specifically? He's historically always been a very average coach, he wasn't even managing when we brought him in. It just seems so strange. There could have been much more current options managing who were out there.
Yeah it’s quite odd.Not getting the weird outrage over this that I'm seeing. It's a consultancy role. It was always a consultancy role. A consultancy role isn't a full time job. I don't think people understand what a consultancy role is. He is taking on an international team job. Also not really a full time job.
It's really not an issue.
No it isn't. He was always a consultant and never "head of recruitment". No one said he was going to fix recruitment on his own. We all knew he was here to consult on the general structure and policy that includes, but is not limited to, recruitment.Cox is a cnut but this is actually spot on.
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Basically a sounding board and contact book in Europe. We were never going to become one of the Red Bull model clubs. Just hope Fletcher, Murtough and Arnold have and will take things on board and are competent.
How people behave like you online is a mystery to me. I'll never understand, and I would doubt you dared it to my face.There is no universe where RR did worse than Ole, also trying to compare them out of context is also next level stupid.
The whole point of him as an interim was getting results this season. The board thought it was a good choice and it clearly hasn't been.I thought the whole point of getting him as an interim was so that he would be a consultant in the stuff he's actually good at next season.
If he isn't doing this / the supposed role he is being offered is minimal - why did we choose him as an interim specifically? He's historically always been a very average coach, he wasn't even managing when we brought him in. It just seems so strange. There could have been much more current options managing who were out there.
Exactly this we have consultants at work all the time sometimes i see them for week, sometimes a few days a month other times not for weeks at a timeNot getting the weird outrage over this that I'm seeing. It's a consultancy role. It was always a consultancy role. A consultancy role isn't a full time job. I don't think people understand what a consultancy role is. He is taking on an international team job. Also not really a full time job.
It's really not an issue.
The way this whole Rangnick episode has been reported and dicussed in the public has been pure cringe. I can see why Cox got triggered by it.He has a weird obsession with Rangnick.