Get 'er done, Ed. Your last chance to sign one of your favourite targets.
Raphael Varane | Signed for United!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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We will sign him the day of the Glazer fan meet. I have a feeling
That probably new challenge is what you are wrong since Varane wants to leave because Real Madrid couldn't give him an improved contract.
Kounde has 2 years of La Liga experiences in top level club and UCL experience and also EL winner, he's really not youngster and unproven. So if we are making Maguire and Bruno's comparison then I must say Kounde is more identical to Maguire & Bruno signing. Moving to bigger club for new challenge with desire to win major trophy. Although, my problem with Varane is not his ambition, just his style of defending, not sure if he suits playing next to Maguire.
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Don't try to talk down to me because your intellectual ability extends to calling others names.
This is a discussion thread for the transfer and I gave my honest opinion. If you want to talk to other devotees of your cult (since other opinions are not allowed), go make a thread explicitly about it.
Sick of people like you who cannot make a cohesive point to save their life telling me what to think and how to act.
Yeah, it does look like a big name signing rather than an analytical target of what we could use (ie a ball-playing left footed centre half). That doesnt mean he'll automatically be a bad signing but our record with these kind of signings isnt great.
He is my preference, and it's almost starting to look like he could actually not be angling for a new deal (though I'm still forcing myself to believe that overall).
Aside from his experience, I think he's the best player we've been linked with. I'd rather not us sign a very young centre back unless we're signing two, because I a player in who immediately dislodges Lindelof and changes us tactically.
Aside from his experience, I think he's the best player we've been linked with. I'd rather not us sign a very young centre back unless we're signing two, because I a player in who immediately dislodges Lindelof and changes us tactically.
How did he play tonight
Outside of one shaky close out in the first 15 minutes, he was fine and didn't have too much to deal with from what I saw.
And he's playing next to Kimpembe, so I guess this tournament will show people whether he needs a gladiator leader holding his hand to play well. Which he's already shown (played alongside Umtiti in the World Cup).
Yeah, I read that narrative but I don't know how much stock I really put into it. I think Varane has a pretty decent base level regardless of who he's partnered with. Kimpembe himself is no slouch and while still raw at times in some of his decision-making, I think he's a really solid partner for Varane. We will see how they manage, but I think there's enough example of Varane managing to be a leader defensively without needing his hand held, I find that a bit disrespectful for a player of his pedigree.
Oh come on, this is Varane, a multiple CL winning CB and a World Cup winner, give the guy some credit. Despite playing alongside Ramos, Varane is a ridiculously talented CB on his own.
Oh I'm not claiming he needs Ramos, I'm characterising what doubters say on here, scoffing at buying him because he might be costly.
I put Varane into google and it seems people are asking the real deep questions about him...
Well, that's his chant sorted. Michael Jackson - Black or White:I put Varane into google and it seems people are asking the real deep questions about him...
If you're thinking about Varane
It don't matter if he's black or white
Our ebony, ivory central defenders.
We all know that people are the same where ever you go
There is good and bad in ev'ryone
We learn to live, when we learn to give
Each other what we need to survive, together alive
Ebony and ivory working together in perfect harmony
Side by side in my central defence, oh Lord, why don't we?
Is he faster than Harry though?
Hes deffo not this fast anymore
That's a fine demonstration of defending space in a high line. The question is, does he still have this type of recovery pace? Because if he does, then he's the correct profile of player to dominate defensive wide spaces without the aid of the midfield and fullback, and would allow us to sacrifice defensive stability for goals, especially against the so called lesser teams.
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Is Varane our number 1 target for CB then? Are they reliable sources that are linking us with him?
Or perhaps the doubters have been concerned with his steady decline over the last two seasons or so.
This was probably him at 23? At 28 now, he’s still fast but not that fast now i think
He’s still a very good defender approaching his prime now
Yes. Pace he still possess. It's no argument he has everything you can ask for a CB to allow tactical flexibility. The question is maximize his potential, which he seems like not realizing to the fullest.
About his contract, I don’t know as I just heard he did not want to sign one, nothing about the money. Maybe it is maybe it is not, maybe you are more informed then me.
I can see him wanting something else as this Madrid team is on its last leg.
As I said to someone else, I am not opposed to Koundé, he looks good from what I heard here. I just don’t want someone like Pau Torres.
But I think too that Varane won’t be a bad choice as he is good in the air, fast and won everything at club and national level. I like youngsters and all but we need experience as well and Varane has that plus he is just 28.
When a player of Varane's quality comes on the market you gonna talk to his representatives to see what his plans are. I dont think madrid will allow him to run his contract down to a free so may reluctantly have to sell. However i think as usual for a Real player his camp are canvassing other offers before going back to madrid with what they can get elsewhere. Wouldn't suprise me if he renewed. Though if he left for the PL we have to get him over Chelsea.
Woodward offered €100mil for him a few years ago over breakfast to Perez when both Utd and Madrid were doin pre-season tour in USA. Wonder if woodward would like to get the deal done this time round before he leaves?
This just feels like the usual script when a Real Madrid player is simply looking for a better deal from the club and has no intention of going anywhere. My prediction is he will be at Madrid next year. If he does leave, which I really doubt, PSG seems a more realistic destination doesn't it? I think there's barely an even slim chance he will come here.
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Doubt we sign him. We are just being used so he gets a new bumper contract.
What is the reported budget this summer?
Kind of the way Ramos did a few years ago... I agree
Between £100m to £150m according to Rob Dawson (ESPN), but that would depend on selling players too.
I’m convinced we’ll get him. There will be a compromise there somewhere. Madrid won’t want him to go on a free next year and get nothing
Doubters would make you believe we are talking about Sylvain Distin, not Varane. Varane is a quality CB, and as much as he benefited from Ramos's leadership and charisma, I rate him as the better defender all things considered. For the sums quoted of 40m i think he would be good for us.
If we got him for 40 then that’s some good business there.
Whitwell is reporting that Madrid want significantly more than the reported £35m. The usual suspects among the Madrid camp have maintained that Madrid will demand €70m.
But you're not factoring in the possibility of other clubs buying him.
I honestly can see him leaving Real but going elsewhere.
They've lost their minds if they're demanding 70m with a year left on his contract.
It's a pretty normal and sensible stance for them to take when it comes to negotiations. They'll end up selling him for around £50m with several clubs interested.
Brilliant player still.
Not a chance we are getting him. Close thread.
Not a chance we are getting him. Close thread.
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