Foden has the skill set to play false 9, with Rashford and saka either side I think would be England’s most dominant attacking outlet.
Rashford vs Saka vs Foden: The English Starboy Trinity
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All 3, thankfully for England, are at their best in different positions and can easily play together.
As far as who'll end up the most celebrated, impossible to say really. Rashford has the best suited attributes to rack up goals. Saka is fkin brilliant at RW and has numbers to go with it, Foden the best passer and close control.
All 3, thankfully for England, are at their best in different positions and can easily play together.
As far as who'll end up the most celebrated, impossible to say really. Rashford has the best suited attributes to rack up goals. Saka is fkin brilliant at RW and has numbers to go with it, Foden the best passer and close control.
Rashford is currently the best of the three. Foden is potentially the best and Saka is a solid 7 or 8 out of 10 talent.
Are you thinking after Kane retires? It would be absolutely ludicrous to play Foden as a false 9 if Kane is available.
Foden seems to be having his dip season at the moment. Thought he was poor before the derby and he did nothing in that game of note. Its understandable though given his age that he'll have ups and downs. If we're looking beyond the last 12 months I'd say he's probably had the highest peak skill level of all 3.
Think it's gonna be Saka... And Bellingham.
Not even worth a debate the only player at United who belongs in this category is Sancho and he's been the most disappointing thus far but hopefully will show promise in the near future.
Absolute nonsense. Saka doesn't strike fear into an opponent? You clearly don't watch him at all. Like I said, there's a reason teams always stick 2 or 3 people on him.. because they are scared.
Yeah watching your games you can tell defences focus on his side way more than Martinelli, which is why Martinelli is usually able to ghost to the back post almost unimpeded sometimes or can go one on one almost every time he gets the ball.
Foden is the least special out of the three.
——————Grealish—————
Rashford——Foden——Saka
I really believe the next tournament we should be lining up like this.
I think Grealish could be tremendous in that position. His holdup would be incredible, he never loses the ball.
Southgate won’t play Foden there, I get why city don’t but Foden is the best option by a mile there.
Rashford——Foden——Saka
I really believe the next tournament we should be lining up like this.
I think Grealish could be tremendous in that position. His holdup would be incredible, he never loses the ball.
Southgate won’t play Foden there, I get why city don’t but Foden is the best option by a mile there.
If maddison can get away from the sinking ship that is Leicester and become a regular starter for a side like Newcastle then you could see him in grealish's place if southgate could break free from playing it predictable and safe with line up
Right winger,left winger and attacking midfielder.
Power, pace,creativity, hardworking and finishing. So balanced .
Feck it - Southgate will stick to Mount and Sterling behind Kane.
Power, pace,creativity, hardworking and finishing. So balanced .
Feck it - Southgate will stick to Mount and Sterling behind Kane.
You think that Grealish will be better than Kane as a number 9?
The way Kane plays for England in two years I think Grealish will be better than him and will definitely show more energy.
Regardless he won’t be playing how Kane plays however I can tell you his holdup lay will be second to none, it will be Rashford, Saka and Foden scoring the goals but I cant see this ever happening.
I’d love to see Grealish up front for City if Haaland was out, a similar but better version of Martial.
Said before the World Cup that Rashford is the ideal attacker you want in a frontline that features Kane as he needs Son-like runners to run in behind when he drops deep. All three could easily work together in the same set up.. Saka RW, Rashford LW and Foden in an Odegaard/Mezzala type role. Criminal that we haven't seen it used regularly.
He's massively mismanaged IMO... used as a winger for club and country is a criminal use of him. He should be running the game as an attacking mid. I get that he's been criticised for lacking 'pausa' but he offers so much when in a centralish role.. and instead he's being used to be a pure match winner from a wide position - its not his natural game.
No offence but why is Rashford in the starboy debate? He’ll be 26 in October. He’s a great player, but let’s respect him and not give him the Jesse Lingard treatment.
I think Rashford should be taken out of this discussion and put Bellingham in place of him.
I think Rashford should be taken out of this discussion and put Bellingham in place of him.
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A few years ago people were calling Foden a generational talent what happened? I guess it's hard to stand out in that city team with De Bruyne Silva etc
Being consistent is an underrated trait. Yes Rashford is more devastating on his day, but there are some games where he can be so frustrating. Saka never really drops below a 7/10 imo. And Saka definitely strikes fear into opponents. The French media were glad to see Saka come off against France in the World Cup. Foden not so much. Plus Saka wouldn’t get kicked about if people at least respect him. I don’t think Foden has Saka’s one v one ability or physicality.
I think I still see Foden as the most talented of the 3.. although the other two are quickly catching up.
Foden’s future is in an attacking midfield position. I can only think of one time when he played there for England and he was class that day.
Rashford Kane Saka
Bellingham Foden
Rice
That’s how I see us going into the next tournament.. certainly been some exciting young talents come through in recent years.
Foden’s future is in an attacking midfield position. I can only think of one time when he played there for England and he was class that day.
Rashford Kane Saka
Bellingham Foden
Rice
Doesn’t necessarily need to be displace but rotation and if he’s in form pick him over Bilva. But to not even give him any game time there to let him learn that role and as for England - inexcusable.
Rashford for me should be a 20-30 goal a season player if he performed close to his potential regularly, or even (as he's starting to look like he might) figured out he's still good enough to score and slap teams about when he's not playing well.
Not sure the other two have that in their locker...although who knows with Saka. He has to go through the whole difficult period then develops into a more productive/complete player thing yet, and hes already pretty good.
Foden is at city so is cursed with the fact he'll never be that relevant since they'll score about 150 goals a season whether he plays or not, and no one will really care when they do. Also has an even more annoying face than the other two which in this case is an astonishing achievement.
All three are cursed by the fact Gareth Southgate exists and would still pick Sterling ahead of them if he retired from football to declare war on England.
Not sure the other two have that in their locker...although who knows with Saka. He has to go through the whole difficult period then develops into a more productive/complete player thing yet, and hes already pretty good.
Foden is at city so is cursed with the fact he'll never be that relevant since they'll score about 150 goals a season whether he plays or not, and no one will really care when they do. Also has an even more annoying face than the other two which in this case is an astonishing achievement.
All three are cursed by the fact Gareth Southgate exists and would still pick Sterling ahead of them if he retired from football to declare war on England.
Out of the 3 of them only Phil has a cat lookalike
Foden has 1 goal and 1 assist since his hat trick in October I think.
He's such a nasty little chav. As much as I want England to do well I will always enjoy the memory of him desperately failing at his Gascoigne impression at the Euros before being dropped for better players.
Can we not continue with the starboy bollox? It sounds shit.
Foden one of most overhyped rubbish I've seen. He done okay for Pep Guardiolas City, oh how impressive to do well at that team. Whereas both Rashford and Saka have shown their true worth and talent in sides who has had struggles.
I didn't rate Saka that highly at first but more I see of him it's obvious there is big talent inside him. He is surprisingly strong. Very quick and technical. Always seems to be a threat. Rashford I think has to show from now on that he can consistently play well and not dissapear for another 6 months.
Foden on other hand I repeat, is shit. Bellingham looked twice the player in WC..
I didn't rate Saka that highly at first but more I see of him it's obvious there is big talent inside him. He is surprisingly strong. Very quick and technical. Always seems to be a threat. Rashford I think has to show from now on that he can consistently play well and not dissapear for another 6 months.
Foden on other hand I repeat, is shit. Bellingham looked twice the player in WC..
England's best front six should be pretty clear: Rice, Bellingham, Foden, Rashford, Saka, Kane.
We've had a great record of bringing young players through in the last decade, but can anyone elucidate me as to what emerging talents are on the horizon? Who are the next big things coming through? I worry at center forward, because after Kane, who is there? Callum Wilson? That's a pretty massive drop off. Do we have any exciting forwards coming through anywhere? Greenwood was the natural heir to Kane in the national team, but that's fecked now. Such a shame too, because he is one of the most two footed, calm under pressure players I have ever seen. Just a disgusting individual on a human level.
We've had a great record of bringing young players through in the last decade, but can anyone elucidate me as to what emerging talents are on the horizon? Who are the next big things coming through? I worry at center forward, because after Kane, who is there? Callum Wilson? That's a pretty massive drop off. Do we have any exciting forwards coming through anywhere? Greenwood was the natural heir to Kane in the national team, but that's fecked now. Such a shame too, because he is one of the most two footed, calm under pressure players I have ever seen. Just a disgusting individual on a human level.
Yeah Greencnut was the one for the future but now I don't know. Also an in form Sancho should be ahead of foden any day..
All 3 players are simply terrific talents who can be a joy to watch.
Rashford and Saka seem like sound boys too. Just wish all hit the heights that their talent deserves.
Rashford and Saka seem like sound boys too. Just wish all hit the heights that their talent deserves.
Sterling's not the problem, he's already been displaced. The problem is Southgate won't play Foden anywhere other than the front 3 and 4 into 3 doesn't go
Saka plays RW better than anyone England have, Kane is obviously through the middle so that leaves Rashford v Foden for the left and despite Foden having never performed for England he'll always get the nod because ABU
I'm surprised that older players aren't being called "starman"
Quarterback too. What does it have to do with association football?
Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not but people often refer to the best players in a team as their star men/man.....
Only gonna happen if we switch to 1 CDM and Southgate's track record says we won't
More a musical thing relating to Starboy
I dont think its fair to get Rashford in the same category as Foden and Saka. Foden and Saka are still youngsters while Rashford is a consolidated player.
After saying this I think Saka is clearly the one with the highest potential. Foden is an excelent promise player as well but Saka's pace and physicality are superior.
I see Foden clearly shinning under Pep's system but I'm not sure if he could/will be able to sustain the same level in another set up or with another coach. He's an hybrid between an 8 and a winger but he lacks explosiveness so he relies in a system like City's that allows him to be high up the pitch with possession rather than having to outpace his defender to get there.
While Saka ticks all the boxes, so he can pretty much shine under any system IMO.
After saying this I think Saka is clearly the one with the highest potential. Foden is an excelent promise player as well but Saka's pace and physicality are superior.
I see Foden clearly shinning under Pep's system but I'm not sure if he could/will be able to sustain the same level in another set up or with another coach. He's an hybrid between an 8 and a winger but he lacks explosiveness so he relies in a system like City's that allows him to be high up the pitch with possession rather than having to outpace his defender to get there.
While Saka ticks all the boxes, so he can pretty much shine under any system IMO.