thing is with no suitors for him at that price chances are his price will only drop. To drive the price up he'd need to do something really impressive. That's the thing with promising players, they either move or have to fullfil their promise to keep their price which most never do.
Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United
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He was rated higher than Kane which tells about how highly rated he was as a youngster.
Id like to think they arent that stupid and he’s given them some kind of permission without revealing too muchGoldbridge and HP have stitched him right up
If we get him, I fully believe the media and opposition fans mocking him based solely on his name and comparison to the name Haaland just like they had written off Licha. And just like Licha, he’ll take price then wrong
Totally wrong. He is a monster in front of goal and his outperformance of XG is one of the largest in football.
Since moving to Dortmund he has scored 83 non-penalty league goals on a non penalty XG of 65.
Kane could maybe still become a Utd player next summer IF he actually has the guts to run down deal instead of joining Bayern. Sadly the Haaland ship sailed when Jose,Butt and the rest of the people at Utd just didn't want to know when Ole told them. £4 fecking million he was available for at Molde which still sickens me to this day.
Yeah I was surprised to see Bruno’s support of Mendy too,one thing that makes Greenwood's case different to many other of these type cases is that horrendous audio recording. That alone is making it very hard to see how he can be brought back into this squad again.
Add Caicedo to that list.
Instead, now we have to pay for the sins of our past ie haggle like feck to make sure the United tax isnt as bad going forward.
I see that one a little differently due to the complex ownership,however with such a small fee involved then should have made more effort
Think there is no doubt he wants to come and we wants him. The issue about pricing. Seems like he is being priced out of a move.
There is too much still to do with this deal in order for him to have played a part unfortunately
I would never compare the two because you can't
Matt Judge. Wasn't going to fly to some god-forsaken place unless it was for some big deals. Wasnt worth getting out of bed for some kid.
Yeah him and the Toy Story puppet did love the razzmatazz shirt seller type deals
Personally it doesn't bother me that other teams aren't in for them,they have both already shown how much playing for this club means to them. Clearly Hojlund is pushing to sign as well but Atalanta certainly won't make it straight forward.
There will rarely be a competition for any signings as clubs know player's preference. Liverpool ,Arsenal wanted Mount but his preference was ManUtd. It would have been madness from their end to bid for the player.
It's same for most players, very rarely you will see multiple clubs bidding for same player.
Yeah Gore definitely caught the eye yesterday
Just need someone to chip in with goals through Aug,Sept and May then if he is going to cover the rest of time then. Would be so ideal if we could get a cheap experienced backup 9 as well
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What shirt number will he get?
Winther is coming.
With this transfer seemingly done I think we've done well this window. Not as well as I hoped but a new Striker, Midfield and Goalkeeper is good progress.
Hopefully the owners can feck off so we can get more players in come the next transfer window.
Hopefully the owners can feck off so we can get more players in come the next transfer window.
I don't think this lad will be our final signing.
It's an idiom, bud.
I watched his all touches vs Inter and that was a mistake, I can't get on the hype train now. Anyway, I guess we're buying him for his potential so no issue with this transfer. However it's hard to imagine there are no better strikers out there that we can get for the money mentioned we are willing to pay.
The fans have unrealistic expectations for the players we buy, hope this guy is mentally strong to deal with it because it's a long way to go for Hojlund IMO.
The fans have unrealistic expectations for the players we buy, hope this guy is mentally strong to deal with it because it's a long way to go for Hojlund IMO.
People keep looking at this the wrong way. No one is claiming there are no better alternatives. There quite clearly are.
However, do you really want us to spend £50m on Callum Wilson who is never going to be good enough anyway? Or another young striker who we're going to be stuck with for 5 years whose potential is piss poor and will take us absolutely nowhere, despite being currently slightly better than Højlund?
We're obviously buying Højlund for the future because he is a very highly rated young striker. Remember he is only 20, while the likes of Kolo Muani will be 25 this year, isn't really a striker and occupies same space as Rashford.
It makes no sense to buy an experienced striker now just because he is a little bit better when we're going to replace him in a year or two simply because he isn't good enough. Because, let's be real, the only striker right now that is good enough is Kane. Maybe Osimhen because he is a goal threat, despite lacking in aspects of the game that Ten Hag wishes to implement in our play style.
Ah thank you!
I trust the manager who has our team playing the best football we have played since SAF with a proven track record of developing and nurturing young talent over a bunch of faceless people on a message board arguing from their basements.
This is my stance. Wish fans would acknowledge a little more that they actually know feck all. Even if someone has watched him in multiple full games this season, I think we see a different game to what the likes of ETH do. If it comes down to whether I trust my judgement more or the manager, I'll defer to the manager. I'm hindsight it may turn out to not work out but I trust his thought process at least more than my own dumbass opinion.
Yup, agree with this. ETH clearly has a very good idea of how he wants us to play and which specific attributes he wants in a striker. He clearly sees hojlund as having those.
I expect the goal scoring to be a shared responbility with the likes of rashford, bruno, as antony and Mount also taking up responsibility.
Tbh I'd agree with you both. I have huge trust in ETH as well. But I don't think it's a good idea just because of that we could look down to or reject any other opinion that disagree with you or ETH. Might better shut down the caf as well.
70 is too much for Hojlund, but he can do it here. He has the team around him to succeed if he is brought in. Still a huge gamble but we are literally built for someone like him since this dude is a big target body up front and we have all kinds of wingers to give him space and a midfield that is built to feed him. Bruno could have had 30+ assists last season if people could finish his link up plays.
Again, huge risk but it would be all on him to show up since all the pieces are there. If ETH wants him, then I can accept that he sees what he wants and he hasn’t been off (Erik) much at all since he came to us.
Again, huge risk but it would be all on him to show up since all the pieces are there. If ETH wants him, then I can accept that he sees what he wants and he hasn’t been off (Erik) much at all since he came to us.
I get a bit mixed up with all the different reported details from the ITK's rather than any official announcements.
I can't remember why we didn't buy Haaland when he left Molde. But when he left RB Salzburg a year later, we definitely did try but wasn't it meant to be something about us at that time beginning to want to lay down markers about not pandering to agents demands, etc? And so when Haaland's agent demanded big money, and that he had a release clause put in, we wouldn't do it but Dortmund would. I always thought that was the wrong deal to make a stance about as it was obvious back then that Haaland was something very special.
The Caicedo one was also a tricky deal with something like a number of agents involved, all wanting a piece of the money. And I guess he wasn't as obviously a 'generational talent' as Haaland. But, yeah, in hindsight two very poor transfers to make that stance about given those fees were pretty low and the players young and very talented.
I agree with your reasoning, like I said I understand we're getting him for the future. I just find it hard to believe the bolded part is true.
If he's the one with the potential then fair enough.
Always makes me chuckle a bit when I see posters speaking with moral authority about others that they should keep quiet and trust the manager better than your own opinion. Like you said, discussing this stuff is what this board is made for.
Well that is an interesting point to discuss. He was spot on with Martinez, also did very well getting Eriksen on a free. Casemiro was a no brainer. Antony and Wout have not been far off from a failure. Sabitzer was a mistake but we were probably in panic mode so I wouldn't blame it on ETH. All in all his offensive choices have not been impressive so far.
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But we're obviously also buying him for now, he can't be just for the future. This is the team that finished 3rd but had one of the worst striker options in the league for most of the season. We can't have a situation next season where this guy looking way off being ready for the PL while we're hoping for Martial to get fit.
Back then most were happy with that decision, including me. Because we didn't want to be a stepping stone. In hindsight of course that's a bad decision but back then we still had Greenwood you know.
We should be aiming to get great strikers, or that will be great in the future. Who other than Kane and Osimhen are great that would realistically be available to us if we had the cash?
That is my worry, he doesn't look ready and I fear we will be looking for a ready-made striker in next year anyway. Will we be hampered by this season spending again? Many questions mark here.
Hojlund looks like he could use another season or two in "favorable" environment (basically continue playing for Atalanta) if we want him to continue developing and current United will be just too much for him IMO.
In the end I will obviously back the manager but I have some doubts.
I don't think ETH would be going for him if he had no confidence he was ready to contribute in the PL. I'm not sure he'd want to place himself in that position.
I think all that is being said is we can't expect the ready made product with Hojlund. There is probably going to be a period of adjustment, and developing his game. But that doesn't mean he can't contribute over and above our striking options last season and make a difference. It's not a case of he will score 25 league goals or he'll be shite because he's not good enough. The reality might be a bit more mundane than either of those extremes.
We are, but we can't expect him to come in and deliver right away. It doesn't work like that, and even if we want him to, we simply can't put that kind of pressure on him because it can affect his current trajectory in a negative way. I don't mind him playing every match as he's better than Weghorst anyway, but if he is going to get slaughtered like every young player that doesn't deliver immediately, it's likely going to end badly.
As you say, he is one for now, because he is an improvement on Weghorst, but primarily he is for the future.
As for the bolded part, I think that's exactly what's going to happen, but also with Rashford in the mix. Personally, I don't think we're going to get another striker, but it would absolutely be ideal.
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