Agreed. Michael Oliver had to fecking apologize to Klopp and Liverpool for his "poor refereeing" because of media pressure. But United were fecked by ref in that FA Cup semi final, and it was brushed under the carpet and not even a single headline talked about it. Not to mention those inconsistent red-cards to Casemiro, where others got away with it.
Refereeing in Liverpool games is embarassing every week | Added videos now to the OP
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
I was our excuse why you were winning and the rest of it which I pointed out was wrong for us to think back in the day which you obviously didn’t read. Try reading before you go crying to the mods like a baby.
But you didn’t , you crack on anyway. Most know your game, I couldn’t careless what you write on here
Imagine this thread if that Lindelof handball was Van Dijk
That was a clear penalty, VAR is atrocious.
What we really need is a few factual YouTube videos of this handball.
Followed by some more factual posts about how Klopp has been influencing VAR referees against giving West Ham stonewall penalties because…hang on, I’m confused now.
No, because they are trolling. I am not asking to ban people who don't agree with me, don't put words in my mouth.Because they don't agree with you?Don't forget to ask to thread ban everyone else that thinks you're going way over the top here!
If you actually read the thread(as you should, as you are staff if this forum, right?) you would realise most of their posts are mocking about United, calling Fergie names, conspiracy theories, past times, absolutely nothing to do with the thread. I think just one single post actually quoted the OP with videos and responded to some incidents, and I am not sure if any of them actually quoted some people and even started any discussion, they just posted childish responses.
Laughing at a thread where basically 8 out of 10 posters posted here agree with the OP is newbie quality of posting too.
It's actually amazing response from staff(?) member, he didn't even read the thread.
Well, I did read the thread actually. 8/10 agreement is very far off reality (people commenting on a single incident don't necessarily agree with your full point), and the first to ridicule your overall point where multiple United supporters, including another scout. And they didn't respond to individual incidents either - which is anyway anecdotal and means next to nothing.
Liverpool fans are having more fun with this since it's exactly what they used to say about United previously (and what did you say about Liverpool fans back then?), but you know, you're in the football forum, everyone can reply. And good thing, too, cause if you really think there is a general, conscious attempt among referees to help Liverpool (as your OP implies), then some vigorous pushback is very welcome, from my point of view.
(Also, 'staff' sounds rather grandiose for a scout, and no, 'staff' are not supposed to read everything.)
Bollocks.
I’ve seen some shite posts in my time but this really does take the biscuit. I’m sure I saw an article dispelling the Fergie time myth and it was actually Liverpool who were given more extra time in the 90s, just like you spent more in that time period as well. United’s spending power was also another excuse used for United winning so many titles.
The idea that United were given an advantage to boost revenue is actually crazy. If that was the case wouldn’t we still get favourable decisions (which we aren’t)? It’s definitely not to the benefit of the Premier League ‘brand’ for City to win the league by a landslide every season.
As someone who supported Man Utd throughout that time I can tell you that this is complete and utter nonsence, the idea that the FA and Premier League favored us for Financial Reasons or any other reason is ludicrus as the FA and Premier League (who were so desperate for City to win the league in 2012 they let them have it on GD instead of holding a mi ey spinning playoff) always had it in for us and always gave our players longer bans and bigger fines for 4offences than players from other clubs.
The myth about Fergie time has been proved false on many as have the ridiculous claims about Howard Webb and referee favoritism.
100%
It would surprise Liverpool fans to know that referees have afforded them more stoppage time and more penalties since the Premier League began.
A very inconvenient truth indeed. As of March 2022 we had the 2nd most penalties given since 92/93, with Liverpool in first place.
Arsenal and Liverpool both given more stoppage time than United since 92/93, with United coming in third.
That should shut down the bullshit pretty quick.
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Do you seriously compare this thread with their opinions back then?
Most of them were quite serious about Fergie and our board giving brown envelopes to the referees before the games.
Yeah, you didn't read this thread, or at least didn't read posts from Liverpool fans here.
So what did you mean by this?
"It's not even funny anymore, it's quite obvious they are being pushed by referees week after week, and it's been happening whenever I have watched them this season. It's not a coincidence anymore."
For the bolded bit: what is it then? The refs do it out of collective fandom? Collective fear of Klopp?
Also, you can't generalize Liverpool fans just like you can't generalize United fans. The Liverpool fans on here may never have believed in corruption, just as some United fans probably do.
I just said I did. So I'm lying or what are you suggesting? (Just so I understand what kind of conversation we're having here.)
Considering some of the other things that happened during the time the powers that be apparently wanted us to keep winning the league (Rio's ban for missing a test, banning players for league games over sending offs in preseason friendlies, etc) I don't think it would help much. Their feelings care little for the facts.
How many Liverpool games have you watched this year?
"It's not a coincidence" means that referees are repeatedly giving decisions to Liverpool for whatever the reason. I think it's because Klopp is influencing the referees by criticising them every week, and not because of some conspiracy theory.
If you have seen at least 5 Liverpool games this season I am sure you would agree. The guy literally attacks referees on the pitch and gets away with it, he attacks them after games and nothing comes out of it, Fergie and Wenger who were in PL for decedes were getting bans for stuff that Klopp does few times every game. Mourinho was better than him too and he was getting fines and sideline bans quite often,something that doesn't happen with Klopp despite being the worst out of the lot.
I agree. But that was the perception. We all said it ignoring that you were a great team.
Read it again. I agree. It was wrong on our part
It was the thought. But like I said we ignored that you were a great team. Christ on a bike
In a sea of dumb posts, this really stands out. Especially as it is factually incorrect on the counts of penalties awarded and time added on by refs. But you do you.
Less than 15% of their matches is the threshold?
Also, Klopp has already received a ban and is facing another ban for his behavior. You aren't helping your cause here.
https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/referees-treat-lfc-very-differently?isFreemail=true
Well they made their own analysis.
Well they made their own analysis.
Interesting read
Very interesting. Thread can end now.
There’s lies, damn lies and statistics…
Wtf is that shit
I have to say, I am sceptical of an article that claims to be posting about big data and then presents scatter graphs in which the x-axis represents absolutely nothing...
All I'm reading here is that Slippy cost Liverpool not one, but two titles.
Excellent stuff.
Are people who doubt this even watching their games?
Two possible offsides and VAR gives them both in Liverpool's favour without even showing the lines. They were finding replays on which it looks like it's onside, but the second goal quite clearly looked off on the right frame, but they will clearly insist on showing the frame before.
Two possible offsides and VAR gives them both in Liverpool's favour without even showing the lines. They were finding replays on which it looks like it's onside, but the second goal quite clearly looked off on the right frame, but they will clearly insist on showing the frame before.
They were both onside
Don’t turn into rawk
Both were clearly onside
They were both on.
The second one they drew lines for the wrong pass in the first instance.
First was onside
Second was very obviously offside. They rewinded it to when the assister first touched the ball, rather than when he passed it which made the scorer level
No conspiracy but this shit always happens when Klopp moans about officials and decisions. They’re clearly affected by it
And why didn't they show the lines? The second one didn't look onside for me at all, I don't know why you are guys are so certain about that.
They don't always show the lines. They probably drew the line from Evans heal and Jones was within it.
No they found the frame where the Liverpool player first made contact, it was a first time pass ?
Evans trailing leg keeps him onside
Both onside. Embarrassing whinging.
Bloody hell mate. Pure Rawkish post.