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Robben
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Attitude problem is a different issue. For purely football reasons, you're kidding yourself if you think Nani or Valencia would start ahead of him. Fergie fancying him or not is a different matter.
Obviously not, since Fergie picks the team. If he thinks he's soft he probably wouldnt pick him in the first team over two players he's gone out and bought instead of him.
He's not the same Robben who was at Chelsea. People need to let go. He's just a great ball runner and average shooter, with no intention at all of passing the ball to better positioned team mates. Every now and then, and more then than now, he'll get a goal. But each time he scores you're thinking "Yeah but he should have had 6 by now".
I'm talking about him being good enough not Fergie wanting him. There are tons of players good enough for us who Fergie doesn't want. Lets agree to disagree. I know he's greedy but that's where Fergie comes in. IMO he's a devastating player with some big flaws in his game which, if ioned out, would be world class.
Well sure, its nothing a boot to the face couldnt fix. But Robben has a reputation for being "injured" and unavailable anytime he doesnt feel 105% fit. A boot from Fergie and he'd probably retire.
20 million, feck THAT
Manchester City are spending £24m on Joleon Lescott, Alex.
That's the thing. This isn't a normal year.
And with Real Madrid paying £80M for Ronaldo, is Robben worth 1/4 of the price for Ronaldo? I would say yes.
If we ended up spending the Ronaldo money on Robben, Silva next year, and one more genuine quality player, I'd be satisfied. Ideally, we would have kept Ronaldo, but that wasn't an option.
Manchester City have more money than sense.
Oh aye, but I'm just showing how £20m for Robben is nowhere near as ridiculous as it may seem. To be honest, Robben was actually brilliant at times last season, and fully justified that sort of figure, but I wouldn't want him here due to his injuries, his inconsistency and also the fact that he's a massive bellend. Ridiculously talented, obviously.
have to agree....
top top quality and would be the best winger in england if he came back but attitude/injury problems
also the twit turned us down for chelski's money
I'd take him here. We need some more quality depth on the wings. He wouldn't play every game, so that would help with the injuries a bit.
To be fair, he does look 35!Undecided about this one. There is, as others have said, a worrying injury record, but on the other hand I'd be pretty worried if he went to City.
Seems to me that we've had our name brought into the race simply so Madrid can get a better asking price for Robben. I really doubt we're interested
There are very few wingers left who can beat a modern full-back with the same ease as Robben. I'm not that convinced by the end product of his left foot, but only Messi is superior at the traditional winger role of getting into space behind full-backs.
Last season, his resurgent form coincided with Real's run of 18 wins in 19 La Liga games and while he wasn't as pivotal as Higuain, he nevertheless had a solid season. Internationally he was pretty useful as well, putting in some creative performances.
Last season, his resurgent form coincided with Real's run of 18 wins in 19 La Liga games and while he wasn't as pivotal as Higuain, he nevertheless had a solid season. Internationally he was pretty useful as well, putting in some creative performances.
He was also extremely selfish through out, Gio. A reason why REAL eventually dropped him.
He was one of those earmarked to be shipped out when Perez made all his big signings because he was probably their most saleable asset for big money and was a big signing from the old regime. But with his stellar performances in pre-season, he's actually won over Pelligrini who has now said Robben is not on his transferable list, and from the Spanish press it seems like Valdano is now in his corner as well. But the thing with Robben is his situation is now seemingly all tied up with the club's politics:
Robben: Uncertainty at Real Madrid - Netherlands
It's actually a bit of an interesting sideshow watching all the maneuverings with their Dutch players this summer and how it's NOT all going to plan for Real Madrid. Huntelaar was called in and told his new club was going to be Stuttgart. (Incredibly arrogant for a club to buy a player during the winter transfer window and then try to ship him out to a team of their choice a few months later). Huntelaar didn't like that one bit and eventually got the move he wanted to AC Milan.
Huntelaar slams Real management 12 August 2009 - 8:46 AM | Sport.co.uk
With Van der Vaart, apparently Pelligrini told him weeks ago that he didn't figure in his plans, wouldn't get a squad number and he wouldn't even be registered to play (as they have a maximum number of 25 players they can register to play in the league). A FIFPro lawyer then came out and said because of this, VDV should be allowed to leave on a free:
Van der Vaart tipped to leave for free - FourFourTwo
My guess is this one will go down to the wire and VDV will be able to go to the club of his choice at a much lower fee than Real Madrid had originally planned. There are rumours Arsenal is interested in him, but only for a fee of about 6 million euros. That would be a steal.
Finally, there's Sneijder, who was originally told by Pelligrini, that he WAS in his plans and would have a definite role with the team. Now it looks like the powers that be at the club have decided to cash in on him and are trying to push him into a move with Inter Milan. But Sneijder has come out and said he's going to stay and fight for his place with Real Madrid. Whether he means this or is simply angling for a bigger pay packet with Inter Milan remains to be seen. Meanwhile, he and Real Madrid are at a total impasse with Pelligrini seemingly being forced to drop Sneijder from his squad. How this one ends up is anyone's guess.
But it looks like borrowing a couple hundred million euros from the Spanish banks even in this economic climate was the easy part. Shifting their unwanted players is proving to be much tougher.
It seems Madrid are much better at buying players than selling them
Cock out time?
Would be interested in seeing Robben at United. Would be a big gamble, but could be very rewarding
This greedy thing is based on the fact Kenyon tried to undercut PSV who had accepted the initial bid. Kenyon seemed to do a lot of that sort of shit before he defected to Chelsea leaving the obvious notion that he did it on purpose. He fecked Ronaldinho around too!
He is what we need but the signing of Valencia may have blocked such a transfer. With Nani beginning to show some promise again, it is safe to say that he will for the time being be one of our first choice wing forwards. Valencia needs to start showing that there is a lot more to his game than just running around and whipping in a cross at the first opportunity.
Seems like people just want us to spunk £20m on a big name for no reason except we've got the money.
Would be useful in a United shirt...not for 20 million though
Hopefully we will get him. Fergie likes having four wingers 
I actually hate the lad, he embodies everything that's rotten about the modern footballer. He's a greedy, bitter, sulking cheat ! BUT he is bloody effective and if were able to keep him fit he'd be a savage addition to our attack. £20M is a wee bit steep, if they drop it to £15M I think we'd be mad not to go for it.........also, remember that he needs to be playing top level football with the World Cup coming up and he's going to dissolve in the Madrid reserves. I reckon he'd work his whingy little socks off at Utd.......
I would take him
I'd much rather see Nani get a proper chance. Robben is a class player and I think the undoubted problem about keeping the ball too much could be sorted out, but I'm not so sure he'd be a good fit for us, he has an ego on him, and he gets injured a fair bit.
Would be a terrific signing.
I thought Valencia played perfectly fine. He's better than Park with much more to offer. Whipping in crosses gave us the first goal in the 5-0 win so why not whip them ? For small teams we could try Nani and Robben on the wings why not for bigger teams Nani-Valencia or Robben-Valencia who ever is fitter or is in form would work. I can only say why not Robben but for around 17.5m. 20m odd sounds a bit steep regarding injuries and the greed that the caf claims.
Can't see us being interested but fit and on-form he is world class and much better than Valencia and Nani. I'd have doubts about long term fitness and attitude but the way the market is, you could do a lot worse. But SAF seems adament that there'll be no arrivals.
Hargreaves' injury developed after he arrived here and Owen doesn't have any injury problems.
feck Robben, Sign Sneijder.
(To the tune of sack Fergie, sell Giggs)
(To the tune of sack Fergie, sell Giggs)
This sums up my thoughts perfectly.
I'd add though, that if Robben had sustained the same shoulder injury that Nani did recently, he'd never have come back 4 days later... As you say, I'd far rather give Nani a good and proper chance because in the long run I think he'll offer us far greater consistency. Robben would arrive with too much baggage and you'd risk him having a negative effect on our dressing room. I like the way Nani is going about things this season and I think he's only going to get better and better...
Robben is an awesome player, i've watched him a few times and the way he beats his man is simply breath taking.
IF we do get him then i guess it will be the end for the likes of Tosic, Park and possibly Nani..
IF we do get him then i guess it will be the end for the likes of Tosic, Park and possibly Nani..
Forgive me but did Fergie not say on Friday again that he would not sign any more players this summer,speculating about Robben or anybody else is a waste of time
Well, as long as thats all you want from a winger...
That is the same Robben that was at Chelsea.
I would love it if we got robben and sneijder as long term replacements for giggsy and scholes
Robben is a bit of a dick it seems, but as wingers go, he's one of the best. He has that ability to inject pace from standing that reminds me of a young Giggs. (Not even daring compare him to Ryan apart from that though.)