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5 goals in 2 league games but he's finished, etc.
Let's see him in a knock out tie in the CL5 goals in 2 league games but he's finished, etc.
Heh, we might have a problem with that.Let's see him in a knock out tie in the CL
Just because we are in the EL, doesn't mean we're forbidden from watching the CLHeh, we might have a problem with that.
He's done well in knock-out ties, just doesn't do well when it's against a big team.Let's see him in a knock out tie in the CL
Eugh. Why can’t you just say that he’s been poor in the CL?He had the worst lxG discrepancy out of all attackers in Europe last season. He'll need more than that to redeem himself
It's... saying the same thing, just using different words.Eugh. Why can’t you just say that he’s been poor in the CL?
Because it is only half of the story. We suck in the CL final rounds whenever we play with three real midfielders. And then not only Lewy sucks but all other offensives, too.Eugh. Why can’t you just say that he’s been poor in the CL?
Because he was genuinely awful in all comps and underperformed by -8 goals compared to his xGs which was the WORST performance by any player in EuropeEugh. Why can’t you just say that he’s been poor in the CL?
Against who?5 goals in 2 league games but he's finished, etc.
Against Madrid and Juventus obviously.Against who?
Lewandoski has single-handedly been responsible for Bayern not winning shit in Europe.
I assume the post referenced his league stats. He had 33 xG last season but scored only 22. That's the biggest discrepancy of any striker in Europe. Could be down to poor finishing but if you look at his stats from previous seasons it seems more likely that this is just down to variance (bad luck, good goalkeeping). No one else had a discrepancy of more than 5. Apart from a certain Lionel Messi who outperformed his xG by 10. Which is his case we can mostly put down to this his finishing abilities as he has been converting his chances at an above average rate thoughout his career.Eugh. Why can’t you just say that he’s been poor in the CL?
My whole point is why can’t people actually discuss football and reasons why he may have had a poor season or declining rather than talking about magical expected goals? It’s like people don’t properly watch football anymore they are too busy looking at stat sitesI assume the post referenced his league stats. He had 33 xG last season but scored only 22. That's the biggest discrepancy of any striker in Europe. Could be down to poor finishing but if you look at his stats from previous seasons it seems more likely that this is just down to variance (bad luck, good goalkeeping). No one else had a discrepancy of more than 5. Apart from a certain Lionel Messi who outperformed his xG by 10. Which is his case we can mostly put down to this his finishing abilities as he has been converting his chances at an above average rate thoughout his career.
Juventus? You mean Atletico?Against Madrid and Juventus obviously.
The bolded sounds pretty hilarious though, even more so after @Blackwidow 's post above.
Playing with Ronaldo has limited Benzema's output. Not the other way around.Is there any striker who hasn't been "extremely shit" in the KO stage if Lewandowski is supposed to be crap?
Benz has a good record, but he had the luxury of playing with CR so he could have off games without hurting his team too much.
Nah, was taking out the piss as the comment about against whom was a dig at BuLi being a farmers league and all.Juventus? You mean Atletico?
I actually rate Lewandowski quite highly, but this is a bit comical. Two of those goals were penalties, if three goals in two games against mid table opposition is proof of greatness then there are dozens of world class strikers out there.5 goals in 2 league games but he's finished, etc.
Why not use more precise language (and stats to back it up) when you have the chance? I watch Lewandowski every week and I don't see any signs of him declining really. His xG numbers from last season were the highest he has ever hit meaning he still gets in great positions. He didn't put as many of them away as he usually does but my best guess would be that this was just a statistical anomaly and his numbers will revert back to the mean.My whole point is why can’t people actually discuss football and reasons why he may have had a poor season or declining rather than talking about magical expected goals? It’s like people don’t properly watch football anymore they are too busy looking at stat sites
I didn't mean his output, he isn't the #1 option on his team which allows him to have more off games with Real still advancing because someone (mostly Ronaldo) else steps up.Playing with Ronaldo has limited Benzema's output. Not the other way around.
Check out his CL stats at Lyon
I loath that xG stuff. It's awful.My whole point is why can’t people actually discuss football and reasons why he may have had a poor season or declining rather than talking about magical expected goals? It’s like people don’t properly watch football anymore they are too busy looking at stat sites
How else would you back up that a player has poor finishing over a whole season?I loath that xG stuff. It's awful.
By watching football. The day somebody came up with that.. Thing.. Was a black day for football.How else would you back up that a player has poor finishing over a whole season?
Write "he's shite" after one bad game, like a good boy.How else would you back up that a player has poor finishing over a whole season?
Do you understand what backing up means?By watching football. The day somebody came up with that.. Thing.. Was a black day for football.
It's about as comical as saying that he's done.I actually rate Lewandowski quite highly, but this is a bit comical. Two of those goals were penalties, if three goals in two games against mid table opposition is proof of greatness then there are dozens of world class strikers out there.
Do you understand how shit that xG stuff is?Do you understand what backing up means?
I'll give you an example:By watching football. The day somebody came up with that.. Thing.. Was a black day for football.
Fully agree. It’s yet another modernization which is Americanizing football. Just leave it the fcuk aloneBy watching football. The day somebody came up with that.. Thing.. Was a black day for football.
No, it's not just about Lewa. It seems like people just look at the stats without even watching games, especially xG. And you know what they say about stats, it's like a bikini.I'll give you an example:
I don't follow Bundesliga so can't comment on Lewa, but I watch lots of Barca games and think Suarez had awful finishing recently.
Someone else claims that he watched every Barca game too and that Suarez's finishing was decent.
What now? End of the discussion?
Yup. It's like football decided to take all the worst stuff from American sports, ton of stats and ton of commercials to the point that football is something in between commercials.Fully agree. It’s yet another modernization which is Americanizing football. Just leave it the fcuk alone
Say that again and I'll slap your shit.A Lewandowski thread, really? Are we in like 2014 again?
It's less a question of americanizing and more about applying intelligence to the sport. All xG does in this context is suggest Lewandowski might have had weak finishing last season, what you do with that piece of data is up to you, no one is stopping you from using your observations to put it into context or argue against it.Fully agree. It’s yet another modernization which is Americanizing football. Just leave it the fcuk alone
I hate the idea that penalties count less.I actually rate Lewandowski quite highly, but this is a bit comical. Two of those goals were penalties, if three goals in two games against mid table opposition is proof of greatness then there are dozens of world class strikers out there.