It feels like you still aren't getting it.But the poster I was responding to clearly wasn't referring to his early days when he started.
I have no idea. Based on last season it looked like he was better as he had continued potter's good work and got them scoring, somethign potter struggled with. But this season its hard to judge as they've not replaced their outgoing stars adequately, injuries, and european football.
Potter's early days were pretty boring. The only comparison the poster could've meant was his last season vs De Zerbi's one and a half. He was also talking about how enjoyable the football was, not this "credit" you seem to be so wound up about.It feels like you still aren't getting it.
The early days matter as let's say that is where De Zerbi is now. Potter went onto develop players like Bissouma, Caicedo, Mac Allister ect.
You can't judge De Zerbi for not doing that when he hasn't had time but clearly that is a point that puts Potter ahead and not behind.
"Wound up"?Potter's early days were pretty boring. The only comparison the poster could've meant was his last season vs De Zerbi's one and a half. He was also talking about how enjoyable the football was, not this "credit" you seem to be so wound up about.
De Zerbi's football last year was definitely more enjoyable, he got them scoring 72 goals. Under Potter they hovered around 39, 40, 42. Then you suddenly jumped in and started saying how what I said actually makes Potter look better etc. Except I never meant to make him look bad?
Misreading someone's post, creating an entire argument with it and then ending with block. Not wound up."Wound up"?
I don't interact with those being silly on here anymore. Block list.
Is it fair to say his season got derailed by injuries? Enciso was out for a while, Mitoma hasn't always been available etc. Brighton's bench is not as deep as other clubs.
Nah no chance. Their squad has been obliterated with sales and injuries and he’s still in with an outside chance at a top 6-7 finish. Still way over achieving even this season.I still think Potter was the better manager and De Zerbi is one of those who got the perfect gig fall into his laps - think Rob. martinez after Moyes.
Potter absolutely revolutionized the way that squad played. Their underlying metrics in Potter's last season suggested that they'd have a season similar to last with a bit of luck.
It's fair to expect him to improve on his final season given the upward trajectory of the squad at the time, but don't think he could've achieved what de zerbi did. Potter is also more of a system coach than an attacking one, so it'd be a stretch to expect his team to suddenly score over 70 goals.I still think Potter was the better manager and De Zerbi is one of those who got the perfect gig fall into his laps - think Rob. martinez after Moyes.
Potter absolutely revolutionized the way that squad played. Their underlying metrics in Potter's last season suggested that they'd have a season similar to last with a bit of luck.
Same with them underestimating De Zerbi. But it will always be the same. Results dictate the hype.I still remember that under Potter they went to Anfield. They conceded twice but they went toe to toe, dominated and draw the game.
Manutd over last ten years has never done the similar. People underestimating Potter are clueless.
They've only kept five clean sheets all season. They always look like they'll give something away imo. Maybe I exaggerated but every time I watch them they look like they're vulnerable defensively.Only 6 teams have conceded less than them in the league this season.
What "next level?"It's fair to expect him to improve on his final season given the upward trajectory of the squad at the time, but don't think he could've achieved what de zerbi did. Potter is also more of a system coach than an attacking one, so it'd be a stretch to expect his team to suddenly score over 70 goals.
Also fair to prefer Potter who is certainly not as bad as his Chelsea spell suggests. But I don't think there is a single Brighton fan who'd take him back after zerbi took them to the next level.
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At least they have patterns of play.No longer the hottest property in football
Yeah he's not doing his chances any favoursNo longer the hottest property in football
Last game of the season is against UnitedDid Brighton even beat anyone lately?
I would agree with this. He has to prove he can have his team perform relatively well for a whole season before a club signs himDo not go near him, they’ve been hammered far too many times this season. We’ve far too many of those under Ten Hag no matter how impressive his style of play is
So basically they'd finish pretty much where they 'belong' based on their resources as a club, rather than overachieving like last season?They have pretty tough games left. Could finish bottom half this season.
He did that 2 seasons in a row with Sassuolo. 8th two seasons in a row with a modest squad. His 2nd season was better. 11 points increase.I would agree with this. He has to prove he can have his team perform relatively well for a whole season before a club signs him
Normal club: you seem to have an ability to instill a system into a team, even with average players. We think that in a club with better players, you have a good chance of thriving. Please signIt's Brighton. Do you expect him to win the league with Brighton?
I was writing something similar but you've pretty much nailed it for me.So basically they'd finish pretty much where they 'belong' based on their resources as a club, rather than overachieving like last season?
Since last season they've lost Caicedo, MacAllister, Colwill and barely replaced any of them, those losses alone weakened them by at least a few places on the league table. This year they've also had other key performers from last season like Mitoma, March, Enciso and Estupinan out for lengthy periods of time so throughout the season it's largely been a very different team than the one who finished sixth last year. Their squad depth was not great to begin with so losing so many key players has definitely hurt them, and the increased match load from their first ever European campaign certainly didn't help things.
I definitely wouldn't blame De Zerbi alone for their league position this season. If anything it's very much understandable they've struggled and expecting them to continue last season's form, let alone improving on it, would have been a mighty tough ask. Then again their football has often been very naive so De Zerbi should take some of the blame too.
Looking at their current XI (I appreciate it has a few important players missing), I would place them near the bottom of the league in terms of player quality. With a fully fit squad they're probably top 10 at best. The squad is poor.They have pretty tough games left. Could finish bottom half this season.
People to stop pretending he is gods gift to tactical footballI was writing something similar but you've pretty much nailed it for me.
I don't know what people expect.
So basically they'd finish pretty much where they 'belong' based on their resources as a club, rather than overachieving like last season?
Since last season they've lost Caicedo, MacAllister, Colwill and barely replaced any of them, those losses alone weakened them by at least a few places on the league table. This year they've also had other key performers from last season like Mitoma, March, Enciso and Estupinan out for lengthy periods of time so throughout the season it's largely been a very different team than the one who finished sixth last year. Their squad depth was not great to begin with so losing so many key players has definitely hurt them, and the increased match load from their first ever European campaign certainly didn't help things.
I definitely wouldn't blame De Zerbi alone for their league position this season. If anything it's very much understandable they've struggled and expecting them to continue last season's form, let alone improving on it, would have been a mighty tough ask. Then again their football has often been very naive so De Zerbi should take some of the blame too. Maybe a more pragmatic approach could have helped them at times.
Would you say they have a better team, squad and manager than most, if not all the teams below them currently and Bournemouth who are currently above them? I probably would. I think if they finish below 10th it would be a season of slight underachievement, they have stabilised enough as a club in comparison to those below them that top half is a realistic aim.I was writing something similar but you've pretty much nailed it for me.
I don't know what people expect.
