It's crazy how many people seem to think it's a fair enough excuse when millionaires and celebrities take no interest in their taxes and just pay people to find loopholes.
Ronaldo to pay 15 millions for tax fraud
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Sarcasm, right?
A 32 year old? Do.not.want.
We like our football news as entertaining and nonfactual as possible over here. A Bola reporting something stupid is nothing new, the fact that the likes of Marca are running with their story is the funny thing
He's coming home 
CR13
Planning frauds based on economics you mean. Do you think they know everything aboug how to evade taxes and stuff? Come on. Some guys in suits told them it would be good but they weren't able at all to understand the consequences. - Of course they're responsible for their money, which is not the same as being guilty.
I've been hearing that Mendes and his Gestitufe agency have had a falling out with Madrid (Pepe gone, Coentrao to go, James soon to go) and it would not surprise me if they fed A Bola the story to shoot across the bow of Florentino Perez.
We like our football news as entertaining and nonfactual as possible over here. A Bola reporting something stupid is nothing new, the fact that the likes of Marca are running with their story is the funny thing
From Sky's transfer page
RONALDO WANTS OUT?
Cristiano Ronaldo wants to leave Real Madrid, that’s according to Portuguese daily A Bola, who ran the story on their front page this morning.
The 31-year-old is reportedly angry at investigations into his tax affairs and wants to leave Spain.
One to keep an eye on.
RONALDO WANTS OUT?
Cristiano Ronaldo wants to leave Real Madrid, that’s according to Portuguese daily A Bola, who ran the story on their front page this morning.
The 31-year-old is reportedly angry at investigations into his tax affairs and wants to leave Spain.
One to keep an eye on.
Indeed. What use would we have for the current Ballon d'or, La Liga, Champions League and European Championship holder if he's going to be past it in a few years time, when we could some youngster who might be half decent for the much anticipated 2020/21 season instead.
http://www.marca.com/futbol/real-madrid/2017/06/16/59439808e5fdea8a5c8b45dc.html
Basically says Cristiano feels he's a victim, he did everything right and nobody's defending him.
Now, i don't know how much of this is true, if anything, and i don't even know if this has even anything to do with the tax evasion accusations(iirc, it's about him evading taxes on his image rights, not on his wages, which are the club's obligation)
Basically says Cristiano feels he's a victim, he did everything right and nobody's defending him.
He's not going to say it, but he does not feel protected by the club. This fiscal matter is the club's business, not cristiano's. I don't want to talk much because i know a lot, but when the Ley(ley=law) Beckham changed, they found a solution to pay part of his salary in a different way."
Now, i don't know how much of this is true, if anything, and i don't even know if this has even anything to do with the tax evasion accusations(iirc, it's about him evading taxes on his image rights, not on his wages, which are the club's obligation)
Mourinho is always keen to keep one and a half eyes on the future because he's a "big picture guy" and not some "win now guy" (...just like his idol Wenger
)Not to mention, didn't CR7 get pretty darn sick of Jose back when he managed Real Madrid? Maybe he'd want ManUtd to change managers just for him to come back; that would show that "the club supports Cristiano" as Cristiano is, of course, "Més que un club"
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Tax slave?
Is that a serious statement? We all know how much Mourinho likes youth (not)Mourinho is always keen to keep one and a half eyes on the future because he's a "big picture guy" and not some "win now guy" (...just like his idol Wenger
Not to mention, didn't CR7 get pretty darn sick of Jose back when he managed Real Madrid? Maybe he'd want ManUtd to change managers just for him to come back; that would show that "the club supports Cristiano" as Cristiano is, of course, "Més que un club"
(Some sarcasm was harmed in the typing of this post!)
The title of the thread is a bit misleading.
Ronaldo hasn't agreed to pay anything.
The 15m figure is what the taxman claims Ronaldo owes.
Ronaldo is disputing it.
Ronaldo hasn't agreed to pay anything.
The 15m figure is what the taxman claims Ronaldo owes.
Ronaldo is disputing it.
Surprised there isn't more reaction to this. Ronaldo is leaving Madrid, that's pretty big news.
Nah, just paper talk atm. Would be too good to be true (I assume MUFC is the most likely destination should he leave)
Breaking just now on Sky Sports News. He wants to leave Madrid and Spain
The only thing breaking on SSN is wind.
Seems he claims it's Real's fault – more or less – for misleading him regarding the image rights part of the (tax) equation.
They'll probably apologize and agree to pay whatever he ends up owing (or work out some kind of arrangement at any rate).
Only way I can see this ending with anything but him staying is if Mendes has decided to burn his bridges with Perez. No idea why he would want that, though – and if it actually happens, I'd say PSG is as likely an alternative as United.
They'll probably apologize and agree to pay whatever he ends up owing (or work out some kind of arrangement at any rate).
Only way I can see this ending with anything but him staying is if Mendes has decided to burn his bridges with Perez. No idea why he would want that, though – and if it actually happens, I'd say PSG is as likely an alternative as United.
how do you live on less than 10K a year?
if what is done with their money, at their request and is illegal, then its exactly same as being guilty.
their request doent even have to be specific. If they instruct their accountant to make sure they pay as little tax as possible and dont explicitly state that it all has to be legal, then they are guilty if something illegal is done
No, it's not the same. A responsible person should pay the taxes and all the costs and charges. A guilty person should go to jail.
I think some bad advisers (and in the case of Messi, his father) told'em it was the best thing to do and just sign.
He's not going to leave and this is more or less the same thing that happened with Messi and the reports of him leaving because he was not backed up by his club. Maybe the players want the club to be in charge of their tax issues as right now they're going straight for the players so maybe the clubs have found a way to evade that that responsibility.
So we offer to pay his £15m as a signing on fee, match his Madrid contract, give him loads of love and appreciation, and it's on right?
Bar that tiny scenario of a transfer fee.
But they'd be reasonable right..as they're showing with Morata (ahem)
Bar that tiny scenario of a transfer fee.
But they'd be reasonable right..as they're showing with Morata (ahem)
Doubt he is leaving. There is nowhere to go but down and I will be surprised if he comes anywhere near us if Mou is manager here. He can't stand him.
Could this be the cause in the delay for on the Morata deal? No chance Madrid will sell Morata if Ronaldo leaves? He is their 2nd best forward at the moment IMO, so could be Perez telling the media we need to make a higher bid because there is potential uncertainty around Ronaldo at the moment? So he waits to see how that pans out before letting go of any other forward. United have been linked to James( which was thought to be a cert as was/is Morata and there was talk of Bale a as an option for us.
tax of 15 millions for CR7 = loss of 5 euros for myself.
Bad financial operation.
Bad financial operation.
Should be a law the accountants would be responsible as well, I'm sure they told him everything ok just sign here...
I've never followed Madrid closely, what happened between them?
They probably did. Here ignorance isn't a defense though. Dunno about Spain.
Wow a lot changed in Portugal since the last time I was there with my wife's grandmother for 6 hours to be checked. To be honest that was in 99 so a miracle happened in 18 years.
Reputable newspaper "sueddeutsche" says, quote, no one in spain doubts the truth of that bit of news, because a) A Bola has "notoriously good contact" to CRs agent and b) Real as much as confirmed it "behind the scenes".
We like our football news as entertaining and nonfactual as possible over here. A Bola reporting something stupid is nothing new, the fact that the likes of Marca are running with their story is the funny thing
Allegedly, Real turned to the newspapers urging them to not print a picture or CR in Real jersey along the story and also advised CR to plead guilty to avoid publicity. Ronaldo was just talked out of publically announcing his departure ahad of the CL final.
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He makes more than 10k if the rate is 25% :
Single - $32,550 – $78,850
Married - $65,100 – $131,450
I have the distinct feeling that most football fans couldn't care less if their club signed the Boston strangler as long as he was a great player. I can see the quotes now. Yeah he might have strangled 15 women but that was when he was in his own time. He never committed any stranglings while he was at the training ground or the stadium. As far as I am concerned he should be allowed to play for us,
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That 8 year old he was fiddling with looked at least 11 or 12 anyone could have made that mistake. He needs to be more careful before e he chooses his next victim oops sorry girlfriend
As for Ronaldo How could he carry out the checks required. It would be like asking him to certify that his house electrics were safe after he had just had it rewired. I trust my accountant to do my books properly. He tells me what I have to pay and I pay it. I can't argue about something I know nothing about
The greed of these megastars is appalling.
Then you have people sticking up for them. Sickening.
Ronaldo's people definitely talked with a bunch of newspapers. At first it was only Marca and A Bola reporting it and Marca were quoting A Bola so I had my doubts but since BBC reported it it's obvious they didn't just make it up.
funny you mention this, I thought he seemed more subdued and not as self absorbed on winning another CL final.
if he comes home we'll have a whip round