Literally just saw it so thought I'd post it without checking
Rooney is finished
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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Literally just saw it so thought I'd post it without checking
He looked like he was about to cry and could offer nothing bar looking to the past.
No I never said that. Maybe thats what YOU understood from what I said but that definitely was not what I said. Rooney was a level below all of those guys when everyone was at their best.
Those guys were unplayable at the top of their game and I don't really remember Rooney ever being unplayable or being at that level that made him stand out above his team mates.
Don't you think the club do that a lot anyway. You don't forget the past, but it is now and the future that matters. The past are just memories.
I should have made that clearer. I wasn't specifically referencing Mourinho to Torres and Falcao. I meant that the respective managers; LVG etc... persisted with them even though it was clear as day they were shadows of their former selves.
When Sir Alex left, I thought the one good thing that came out of it is that he had engineered a way to get Rooney out at the same time. Then bloody Moyes comes in and bends over backward to keep the useless twat. The number of ridiculous mistakes made by the people running the club that summer is unbelievable in hindsight, but it was obvious at the time too!
Brilliant from Keith.
Don't you just hate when stats and facts interfers with personal opinion?
Yes, sentimentality is an issue at the club in general, respecting the past is right but not living in it.
Has it? This actual poll?
The problem with your post is that all the players you quote peaked at different points. Rooney was already on his way down when Suarez came. Henry was at the end of his career when Rooney was at his peak. Those are just two examples.
At Rooney's best, he was certainly one of the best attackers in the world.
Pretty sure it was a similar poll doen by Red Issue.
His only argument was rooney's past, and not even recent past its from 4 seasons ago. But Keith made a brilliant point of its the past we're going with then bring robo back, bring chorlton back!
Yeh, he was saying we should consider What he's done for us in times past and he's about the be top goal scorer.
How does that help us now?
I think Rooney's best wasn't as good as the other players best thats probably why I dont see him as being as good as you make him out to be. Just a difference of opinion.
If player A scores more goals than player B that automatically makes him a better player then? You need to go much deeper in stats to compare them other than just goals.Don't you just hate when stats and facts interfers with personal opinion?
We need more callers saying the same. We need to hammer the point home that we've all had enough of him.
Unfortunately we're dealing with many blinkered pundits and people like Sammy who can't give an impartial opinion on one of their mates. But it's about time they were pulled up on the nonsense they still talk about him.
But players like Torres, RVP are pure goal scorers and they should be judged on goals scored. At least for Drogba it's different.
Rooney was fantastic player at his peak and not many better than him.
At his best, he was certainly up here with Torres, Drogba and RVP. Not as good as Henry or Suarez though.
Illuminati ain't got shit on Jose. He'll turn that triangle upside down if he has his say.
btw what a call.. Keith is a legend. Hope he called with caller ID unknown.. otherwise illuminati gonna get him like they did Dave Chapell.
The thing with Rooney is that it didn't last, to me he is in the same bracket than Tevez.
We will know on Saturday if he isn't dropped that something is very, very wrong with how our club is being run.
Funny how the guy says we should leave the past and view him as he is now and then the pundit goes he is a club legend
Torres and RVP's peak didn't last long imo.
WOW, that's the first time I've ever seen anybody with half a brain call into MUTV. He's absolutely bang on, and sums up how pretty much every united fan feels at the minute.
It just shows that the ex pro's and friends of Rooney haven't and can't accept that he's passed it. They say he's only 30 like it's just a blip and expect him to be solid for another 4-5 years afterwards.
"but look at what he's done for United and England" Yeah he's been fantastic over the last 12 years, but that's exactly the problem. HAS BEEN. I genuinely think these older guys forget how good he used to be. If they saw a young Rooney compared to now they would be shocked.
I love Keith.
He was world class that season. Doing great in Europe too until that ankle injury. Everything has gone wrong since then unfortunately.
For me Rooney was a world class player from 2007. He didn't get the goals Ronaldo did. 20 in 2007, 23 in 08, 17 in 09 but he was delivering class performances. Remember played majority of that period on the wing. Between 2007 and 2010, there aren't many attackers I wold have had ahead of him.
What is written on the tweet? Can't see it here.
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Has anything really changed? Rooney has been turning in fairly subpar performances for years and is never dropped. I dont know why people are expecting this weekend to be D day.
That grey haired guy should retire from being a "pundit".
Well done from the guy who called.. we need more of this
Well done from the guy who called.. we need more of this
It's quite remarkable and sad that his best years were between the ages of 21 and 24. That's an incredibly early peak.
I completely agree and neither will be greatly remembered, the same way Falcao won't. Rooney is in that bracket but he had the chance of playing regularly for a great manager and a great club.
Feck me he was so good then. I reckon his wig has soaked up all his ability.
That's Sammy McIlroy.
his all around play is brutal. he does pop up with few goals and assists here and there but it's not enough to cover up for his decline and it's just papering over the cracks.
He has started despite his contribution now for years under different managers. He's clearly being picked for some off-pitch reason, and that probably won't change now. He'll start against Leicester. His performances are simply not relevant.
Not at all, which is why I said stats and facts.
I think Rooney will be remembered as a great simply because of the records he will hold. Whether he was world class or not won't even come into the debate.
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