Lewnited
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Gonna miss him in the Sky studio actually
We'll get press conference Roy back though, and the post match interviews too.Gonna miss him in the Sky studio actually
He's had chances already to prove that and blown them.Was hoping he'd get the Celtic job last summer, League One would be a bit of a shame. If he goes there, I hope he proves the doubters wrong. I think he has it in him to at least be a good manager.
What?! He fell out with the entire Ireland set up and him and O'Neill had them playing awful football.Roy Keane is the best man to manage Man Utd, but that won't happen as long as Fergoe is upstairs. Keane knows how and when to crack the whip on the big egos in the team, and how to get the best out of underperformers. It's just unfortunate that Keane will never work with Fergie again.
He had a decent spell at Sunderland, to be fair.What?! He fell out with the entire Ireland set up and him and O'Neill had them playing awful football.
He's had chances as a manager and done nothing. He's had chances as an assistant and done nothing. His only track record, since retirement, is being a gobshite and starting fights. He did that as a player as well but at least he was a good enough player that it was overlooked.
True. Wayne seems to be doing well at Derby though it's still early days. Was listening to his assistant's interview on the BBC daily podcast yesterday, and it all sounded quite positive, in terms of his tactical knowledge and man management skills. I always thought, of our players, he'd be the one likely to do well as a manager so I'm curious to see how his career develops.Out of our ex-players in the last 20 years or so, he's been our only ex-player who has had a half decent spell as a manager - winning a championship winners medal a decade and a half back.... I'd listen to him any day over the United DNA brigade of Evra, Ferdinand, Scholes. He's definitely toned down and has realized he is no longer the hotshot he thought he was - and is instead considered a dinosaur in the game. I hope this helps him turn things around, become successful and win back his reputation again.
You mean after doing well at Sunderland, by most measures, he failed at Ipswich and that's that? I disagree.He's had chances already to prove that and blown them.
That alone should not be enough to get the Utd job. And everything since then has been diminishing returns. The dude is washed.He had a decent spell at Sunderland, to be fair.
Decent is downplaying it. Taking over the side at the bottom of the table, winning the league and then having a very solid first year in the top flight is no mean feat.He had a decent spell at Sunderland, to be fair.
He had an awful spell at Ireland with O'Neill. Given his profile and if his record, in your opinion, isn't that bad, why then has nobody given him a chance? Could it be owners, staff, etc have seen how he interacts with people and don't want him anywhere near their club? The way he behaved in the Ireland camp was genuinely disgraceful. The stuff he said about Walters and his mum was disgraceful. The guys a gobshite. No club in their right mind would be hiring him. That it's a 25 year old billionaire looking for a shot of nostalgia tells you everything.You mean after doing well at Sunderland, by most measures, he failed at Ipswich and that's that? I disagree.
I think it's fair to say you've made your mind up about himHe had an awful spell at Ireland with O'Neill. Given his profile and if his record, in your opinion, isn't that bad, why then has nobody given him a chance? Could it be owners, staff, etc have seen how he interacts with people and don't want him anywhere near their club? The way he behaved in the Ireland camp was genuinely disgraceful. The stuff he said about Walters and his mum was disgraceful. The guys a gobshite. No club in their right mind would be hiring him. That it's a 25 year old billionaire looking for a shot of nostalgia tells you everything.
Obviously.That alone should not be enough to get the Utd job. And everything since then has been diminishing returns. The dude is washed.
Aye, absolutely.Decent is downplaying it. Taking over the side at the bottom of the table, winning the league and then having a very solid first year in the top flight is no mean feat.
I’m absolutely not advocating for him here, just saying that he did very well at Sunderland
I have. He was a great player but I feel he's a rotten person. Even his punditry, which people find bizarrely entertaining, amounts to nothing more than a 50yo man with a chip on his shoulder, calling young players weak or cowardly. It's never sat right with me, stuff like that sticks.I think it's fair to say you've made your mind up about him
In terms of managerial ability - there are two managerial spells to judge from. One was mainly successful, the other not. I don't think it makes sense to evaluate his managerial ability on his role as an assistant. If that were the case, quite a few assistants at OT would have become successful managers. Logic doesn't hold.
Contrary to yourself, I really like Keane and I hope he does well.
I think what happened to Roy Keane is a major lesson to many players evolving into managers. Whatever has followed since his promotion at Sunderland has been his own undoing. Brash attitude, corrosive demenour, constantly bickering with people above him for petty issues and making that public, isolating players in the name of being strict etc. There was a point where I honestly thought he'd be replacing Sir.Alex - and all of this went down the drain in 2 seasons. He's still at an age where he can recover and do well if he understands what he did wrong and corrects them. As far as footballing brains go, there are very few people smarter than him - and this was never his limitation.True. Wayne seems to be doing well at Derby though it's still early days. Was listening to his assistant's interview on the BBC daily podcast yesterday, and it all sounded quite positive, in terms of his tactical knowledge and man management skills. I always thought, of our players, he'd be the one likely to do well as a manager so I'm curious to see how his career develops.
You can't evaluate what his input is as an assistant, whereas as a manager he's fully responsible for everything. I won't try to debate our subjective takes on his punditry or various adventures.I have. He was a great player but I feel he's a rotten person. Even his punditry, which people find bizarrely entertaining, amounts to nothing more than a 50yo man with a chip on his shoulder, calling young players weak or cowardly. It's never sat right with me, stuff like that sticks.
Ignoring his assistant experience is bizarre. It's two sides of the same coin.
Ha! It's on record and widely reported that he was a disaster in the Ireland camp.You can't evaluate what his input is as an assistant, whereas as a manager he's fully responsible for everything. I won't try to debate our subjective takes on his punditry or various adventures.
No reason why he couldn't do both. Hasselbaink is on Sky regularly whilst also managing Burton.Not that i'd have any clue, but i would have thought being a Sky pundit paid more than managing a league one side.
Footballia.netI think he's well liked by the Sunderland fanbase still, could be a good move for him, albeit in a lower league.
On a side note, i can never find United vs Liverpool 1999, the 2-2 match online on youtube . Would like to see Keane and Ince battle it out in that one again; Keane was phenomenal in the 2-1 FA cup game at OT.
As many have said he was decent in the role though. Walters seems to be just like Keane in that neither of them come out of it with much credit, and both of them have chips on their shoulder. Walters going on Soccer AM saying he wasn't afraid of Keane was toe curling.Ha! It's on record and widely reported that he was a disaster in the Ireland camp.
That’s unfair. He won the championship with Sunderland who were rock bottom when he took over. Then he kept them up.What?! He fell out with the entire Ireland set up and him and O'Neill had them playing awful football.
He's had chances as a manager and done nothing. He's had chances as an assistant and done nothing. His only track record, since retirement, is being a gobshite and starting fights. He did that as a player as well but at least he was a good enough player that it was overlooked.
That’s a load of BS.Ha! It's on record and widely reported that he was a disaster in the Ireland camp.
How dare you use facts in the face of blind narrativeThat’s unfair. He won the championship with Sunderland who were rock bottom when he took over. Then he kept them up.
All this seems to have been forgotten .He was actually showing great promise at Sunderland.
I think he comes across as a thoroughly decent guy who has high standards when it comes to professional football. Saying he is a rotten person just seems ridiculous to me because he clearly isn't.I have. He was a great player but I feel he's a rotten person. Even his punditry, which people find bizarrely entertaining, amounts to nothing more than a 50yo man with a chip on his shoulder, calling young players weak or cowardly. It's never sat right with me, stuff like that sticks.
Ignoring his assistant experience is bizarre. It's two sides of the same coin.
The stuff he said about Jon Walters was beyond the pale. No decent person takes a swipe like that in a public forum.I think he comes across as a thoroughly decent guy who has high standards when it comes to professional football. Saying he is a rotten person just seems ridiculous to me because he clearly isn't.
Not only was he just an assistant for Ireland, but a national squad set-up and managerial approach are fundamentally different from those of a club. I hope that one day he will have the chance to manage a big club particularly United, because I'm convinced he has the managerial talent. I acknowledge that he is a rough grinding stone who doesn't receive many party invitations, but that's precisely what the current United squad need to deliver. I can understand why Sunderland are back for him, he did a near-miracle in his first season there and that's not an easy division to succeed.What?! He fell out with the entire Ireland set up and him and O'Neill had them playing awful football.
He's had chances as a manager and done nothing. He's had chances as an assistant and done nothing. His only track record, since retirement, is being a gobshite and starting fights. He did that as a player as well but at least he was a good enough player that it was overlooked.
I think he is ideal for what Sunderland want, he's not ideal for the top level where even shite players have the option to jump ship. Imagine Roy managing Pogba?I wish him all the best. I don't see him as a top manager but he can go into an underperforming squad, crack the whip and hopefully get them working hard. He'll need the right characters though...
Id hope Sunderland fans would be vocal on their want for a new season of it if Micah was the assistant. Would be interesting to watch.Aww and they cancelled Sunderland 'Til I Die..
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