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Andy Goode...I saw in a tweet there earlier that apparently there was an ex-England player who did a radio interview early last week where he said Farrell leads with a high shoulder and is likely to get red-carded some day under the new rules
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It’s definitely a contentious subject for parents I know. A lot of them have decided they don’t want their kids playing rugby, despite playing themselves.Tweet
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Matt Dawson saying #notformykids. I see Kyran Bracken also comments on the tweet after this that he retired because of concussion and big hits. I only played for a few years and I got 2 concussions and broken bones. One of them was in a training session where someone simply didn't like me playing well and walloped me. The other was a knee in the face from my bad tackle technique in a match. There were a crazy number of serious broken bones the year I finished playing. It mostly came down to inevitable results from bad coaching in tackling, rucks and scrums. I don't know how it is nowadays but I imagine that year there were a lot of parents who heard about this stuff and thought twice about involving their kids.
Didn't he come on late in the game?In general, the consensus is delight and that we don't have a B team anymore. This is all without a ball being kicked of course, and it could all go horribly wrong, but that's probably unlikely and instead it seems like the culmination of years of squad building by Schmidt and the provinces. Leinster are the key drivers at club level at the moment but the other provinces are also providing key squad members, which is a great situation. It's not that long ago that my team, Connacht, hadn't provided an international player in almost a decade.
I think we were delighted years ago too with the one or two world class players pushing on decent squads to great results, but this seems another level. We arguably have great depth everywhere bar scrum-half at the moment, as well as a production line of young players coming through.
On a gossip note, I see that the rumours are still flying around that Cronin punched Henshaw in a training session and he won't start for Ireland again while Schmidt is coach. We'll have to wait and see.
Yeah sure, the rumour is that he won't start again.Didn't he come on late in the game?
I played from the age of 5 to my second year of college (when I had to quit because work were going to fire me if I didn't stop coming in bloodied and bruised). Didn't play again for ten years but decided to try and get back into it when I was living in Singapore a couple of years ago as a way to meet people and keep fit. I really enjoyed the first few preseason training sessions, working on fitness and some handling skills until about 3 weeks in we started with some contact.I only played for a few years and I got 2 concussions and broken bones. One of them was in a training session where someone simply didn't like me playing well and walloped me. The other was a knee in the face from my bad tackle technique in a match. There were a crazy number of serious broken bones the year I finished playing. It mostly came down to inevitable results from bad coaching in tackling, rucks and scrums. I don't know how it is nowadays but I imagine that year there were a lot of parents who heard about this stuff and thought twice about involving their kids.
Ah that couldn't be. I mean if you were told you won't start again as long as I'm manager would you stick around?Yeah sure, the rumour is that he won't start again.
He might have been told he's On Report or something. Actually, I think I'm going to stop talking about it til something more solid comes out because it seems to be total rumours.Ah that couldn't be. I mean if you were told you won't start again as long as I'm manager would you stick around?
Yeah to be honest with Rory Best injured I would've pretty much wrapped Cronin in cotton wool until a bigger game so I'm surprised he got game time at all. That said I see nothing about this bust up either and I'm sure they happen all the time in rugby. It's such a physical game.He might have been told he's On Report or something. Actually, I think I'm going to stop talking about it til something more solid comes out because it seems to be total rumours.
I'll take a loss here if it meant we could finally beat them in the World Cup! Only thing I disagree with Schmidt on is Marmion and McGrath over Cooney. To me it seems like Cooney might be the only one of the three that could provide adequate cover for Murray if he's out (praying he'll be fit again soon). McGrath particularly hasn't shown anywhere near as much for Ireland as he has in a Leinster shirt but even on club form I'd have Cooney as the best after Murray at the moment.
McGrath is really not grabbing his opportunity I think. Marmion is trusted now because he's done a great job for the squad when called on, even out of position. We know how much Schmidt values that. Cooney is an interesting one - I like him because he used to be at Connacht and he's a kicker too which is a bonus. I'd have given him the bench slot.I'll take a loss here if it meant we could finally beat them in the World Cup! Only thing I disagree with Schmidt on is Marmion and McGrath over Cooney. To me it seems like Cooney might be the only one of the three that could provide adequate cover for Murray if he's out (praying he'll be fit again soon). McGrath particularly hasn't shown anywhere near as much for Ireland as he has in a Leinster shirt but even on club form I'd have Cooney as the best after Murray at the moment.
A bit of getting excuses in early there! What's that about? Surely they can be very confident going into this match.Kiwi media talking about a ref before a test. I sense some paranoia: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...pline-vital-for-abs-with-jerome-garces-as-ref
It seems like a number of Kiwis have not forgiven Jerome Garces for the role he played in the controversial finish to last year's Lions series. Monsieur Garces is pinpointed as the man who talked Romain Poite into changing his mind over the decision Poite made to give NZ a penalty for offside late in the 3rd test.A bit of getting excuses in early there! What's that about? Surely they can be very confident going into this match.
That drought will go to 20 years at least.
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Ooooh some sour tasting grapes here. The Referee who remember is the soul arbiter of the Laws and after referring it to the TMO said it was a legal tackle. End of story. If he had not he would have been scrutinised by the media for some of the shocking stuff the Boks were dealing out.Yeah, an almost universally grim reaction around the place as far as I see it. Some over the top ones too: "Gus Gardner has single-handedly thrown the tackle laws up in the air".
Who's got the sour grapes then?Ooooh some sour tasting grapes here. The Referee who remember is the soul arbiter of the Laws and after referring it to the TMO said it was a legal tackle. End of story. If he had not he would have been scrutinised by the media for some of the shocking stuff the Boks were dealing out.
In the meantime, Danny Cipriani gets a ban because an Irishman ran into him and fell as he was hitting Cipriani on the arm. A shocking decision that wouldn’t have happened if it was the other way around for sure.
However, the former Ireland skipper has had a re-think and now believes that Farrell was a lucky man.
"I backed the referee's call immediately after the game, and I've actually revised that thought," he told reporters at a Guinness event.
"I actually didn’t understand it, and as a pundit maybe it's a disgrace, but I actually thought if it's an attempted wrap with the non-tackling shoulder that would suffice.
"But it doesn't. There has to be a wrap with the tackling shoulder.
"So you can't hold one arm down. Now that action in itself is not easy.
"But I stand corrected there on the basis that it obviously is a penalty."
How do you know it wouldn't have happened the other way around? Have you any basis to think that England receive bad calls from a ref more than other nations do?Ooooh some sour tasting grapes here. The Referee who remember is the soul arbiter of the Laws and after referring it to the TMO said it was a legal tackle. End of story. If he had not he would have been scrutinised by the media for some of the shocking stuff the Boks were dealing out.
In the meantime, Danny Cipriani gets a ban because an Irishman ran into him and fell as he was hitting Cipriani on the arm. A shocking decision that wouldn’t have happened if it was the other way around for sure.
Yeah i'd definitely have Cooney ahead of McGrath and ditto for Marmion at the moment too. Maybe Schmidt is thinking that McGrath is more beneficial simply because he plays with Sexton and a lot of the other Irish backline. Still I'd prefer Cooney get a chance on current form.McGrath is really not grabbing his opportunity I think. Marmion is trusted now because he's done a great job for the squad when called on, even out of position. We know how much Schmidt values that. Cooney is an interesting one - I like him because he used to be at Connacht and he's a kicker too which is a bonus. I'd have given him the bench slot.
I hope that Cooney does get his chance in a meaningful match. It'd be a pity if he misses out on his shot because he's earned it.Yeah i'd definitely have Cooney ahead of McGrath and ditto for Marmion at the moment too. Maybe Schmidt is thinking that McGrath is more beneficial simply because he plays with Sexton and a lot of the other Irish backline. Still I'd prefer Cooney get a chance on current form.
Where's the sour grapes on my part?Ooooh some sour tasting grapes here. The Referee who remember is the soul arbiter of the Laws and after referring it to the TMO said it was a legal tackle. End of story. If he had not he would have been scrutinised by the media for some of the shocking stuff the Boks were dealing out.
In the meantime, Danny Cipriani gets a ban because an Irishman ran into him and fell as he was hitting Cipriani on the arm. A shocking decision that wouldn’t have happened if it was the other way around for sure.
Maybe, but thats all on Farrell.This why NZ are so good. They played well for about 7 minutes and it's a 5 point gap going into half time and they have all the momentum.