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Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Just received this PM from a German newbie member who can't post in this forum, so I'm forwarding it here. Replies are discouraged though seeing he can't post to reply.
It's not about NATO, it's about Russian expansionism and claiming back their "empire". Former USSR states are joining NATO because they feel threatened by Russia (and with reason).
Why should Ukraine not be allowed, as a sovereign country, to choose their own course of action? If that includes joining NATO, so be it.
As bad as the West can be, they pale into insignificance compared to Russia.
Please read this whole thread with Zelensky addressing the russian people:
It's powerful and depressing at the same time...
God bless the Ukraine
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It's powerful and depressing at the same time...
God bless the Ukraine
Russian troop count now at 200k
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If Ukraine can resist for more than 6 months of active combat then the financial cost won't even be the most important factor, because it will hurt Russia on other levels and it will significantly undermine the support for war inside Russia.
But I don't think Putin is planning a 6-month conflict, if the attack stalls or moves too slowly he might choose to just solidify the gains (most likely Donbass and a land bridge to Crimea) and call it a day. Putin is not an idiot (unlike what many think here).
The bit in Russian is brilliant. I wonder why there are no subtitles for this?
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The council on which Russia has veto power?
Some passionate speeches will be made again, and that'll be it. Useless organisation.
I think so, yeah.
Zelinksy tried to call Putin, who didn't take the call.
Ominous saying: when the talking stops, the shooting starts.
Everybody seems to think it's gonna be tonight.
Zelinsky's call now is just for the show really. The doors for diplomacy have already been officially closed and the US and France already cancelled diplomatic meetings earlier this week citing that exact point.
There will be some emotional speeches today and tomorrow (because the public opinion will be very important in the long run), but the key after the military conflict starts will really be how long the Ukrainian forces can resist. If they capitulate relatively quickly then expect some of the enthusiasm to support them to wane gradually. Conversely, if Ukraine can put up a good fight, then the Russian camp will get weaker with time and it might bring the whole operation to a halt.
Zelinsky's call now is just for the show really. The doors for diplomacy have already been officially closed and the US and France already cancelled diplomatic meetings earlier this week citing that exact point.
There will be some emotional speeches today and tomorrow (because the public opinion will be very important in the long run), but the key after the military conflict starts will really be how long the Ukrainian forces can resist. If they capitulate relatively quickly then expect some of the enthusiasm to support them to wane gradually. Conversely, if Ukraine can put up a good fight, then the Russian camp will get weaker with time and it might bring the whole operation to a halt.
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Well now he's got everyone believing his murderous rampage starts tonight I'm going to assume its standard Putin mind games and sleep soundly 
I imagine Putin might be like "Feck you I won't invade when you tell me"
Ukraine's neighbors have been very anti-refugees in the last few years but I assume they'll allow ukrainians fleeing to cross their borders, right?
They were against brown people coming , not blonde slavs
Definitely. I think Poland indicated they'll help. Russia is their common enemy.
Romania has already promised to take up to 500k refugees
Ukraine has a population of just over 44 million. How many of those will be turned into refugees due to this?
We won't know till it happens I guess.
When I look at the actual clip, my guess is that Blinken initially misheard the question. He specifies later that he can't put a date or time on it. I don't think he's truly implying here that Russia invades before the night is over.
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May 18th…
I guess at least they're announcing it this time instead of shooting down civilian planes like they did in 2014.
What's the significance of may 18th?
It's 3 months from now.
Clarissa Ward has some balls must be said. She was one of the last out of Kabul, now in Kharkiv.
Yeah, that sounds about as far as Putin would like it to last.
In case anybody was a bit confused by the meaning of this, BM-21 'Grads' are a very old but effective Russian multi-launch rocket system mounted to the back of a truck.
I'm not sure what Grads 'landing' means - presumably rockets hitting the ground near Mariupol.
You'd have thought the media would be on this by now though.
Sorry but if the soldiers have their android phones on and connected so they can be tracked by Google maps is just
