Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Why would he not want direct internet access? And where does the information that he doesn't have direct internet access come from?
I think we should be grateful if he really doesn't have direct internet access. If he were to spend an hour on Twitter, he might just decide that nuclear annihilation is the best way after all.
 
As for Putin, we’ll never know. He doesn’t have a smartphone or a direct internet access (willingly), so he’s extremely reliant on the rigid chain that updates him with information, but I doubt that anyone would dare to significantly alter the real numbers/situation — if anything, lying to Putin has to be scarier than telling him disappointing truth. Obviously all of the info would be slightly altered to fit the narrative better, but I doubt that it would be completely altered. And you have to understand that the guys that supply Putin with info (FSB & FSS) aren’t military, so Putin’s anger won’t be directed at them.

As the apparent FSB informant said, they were only bullshitting on the potential projections of a future war as no one thought that it was a realistic perspective — so they’ve focused their analysis on different scenarios. Now, when the war is in action, it’s a different point.

You don't need to consciously alter the reality. It is human nature to "soften" things when you know the one you're talking to won't take it well for whatever reason. Nobody is as straight forward when talking to somebody as he is talking about somebody. Can only imagine how it must be to do so when the other one is as intimidating as Putin and you know what's at risk if you fall out of failure. Especially when there's a really fine line between being a honest advisor who says things as they are and being a traitor who's always against the decisions made by the supreme leader.
 
No surprises here. This should be blasted on Western news channels to once and for all remove any doubt where China stands with regard to its ambitions.

Make no mistake China has all the imperialist ambitions of Britain, US, Romans and Greeks rolled into one. They're sitting and watching right now but whether it's in 10 years or 50 years they will be in Taiwan and that will only be the start.
 
I think the pressure of applying a NFZ

The potential move for a NATO Country in Poland, providing airfields and aircraft for the Ukrainians air defence

Is all leading us very very close to potential motions being put in place which will set off scenarios that cannot be reversed leading to a much more heavy involvement militarily from NATO further down the line.

There will be no NFZ and Poland will not provide them with airfields. We may give them our aircrafts but is that really that much different from the weapons that have been provided so far?
 
i got mixed up between two different tweets. I'm morbidly obsessed with the news atm.
Given how many completely unprecedented and unexpected things we have seen in recent weeks, I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the US, UK and the EU/EEA/NATO countries all phase Russian oil and gas out very, very quickly, despite the pain it will cause and the question of whether governments will have to further subsidise the energy bills of their citizens. The foreseeable period isn't going to be a pleasant time for anyone.
 
CNN's Fareed Zakaria Rejects Idea Of 'White Double Standard' In Ukraine Coverage



Usually agree with Fareed, but he is wrong here


Both the host of the podcast and Fareed are correct imo. You can have a nuanced view that Ukraine is more important because Russia has the biggest stockpile of nukes, a madman in charge, and the danger of a WW spreading into Europe, while also holding a view that non-Europeans have been discriminated against at border checkpoints and elsewhere. Neither of the views are contradictory to one another.
 


That screams of soldiers that are badly trained, scared and unprepared, and shooting at anything that moves. It ties in with everything else we've seen so far. There is no chance they were able to identify that target before firing at it.
 
I'm not talking about how it's presented to the Russian people,

Of course, but I was saying how he (Putin) does present it to the Russian people. Lets be honest if the Russian people wanted freedom and democracy they would have chosen it, like Ukraine has. Although there are probably lots of people in Russia who would welcome democracy, there must still be a significant number of the Russian population that does not want democracy, otherwise Putin would not be in power, they have been told to fear the West (in some cases with a certain amount of justification) and Putin plays to that fear.
 
Leading the way.
The ridiculous thing is that the UK government is creating bottlenecks that make it very difficult for Ukrainians (or others) to come to the UK. Everything we have seen from the Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, Moldova, Slovakia and Romania borders suggests that they have done the upmost to process the maximum number of people that they can and eliminate all the bottlenecks they can: no-one needs to get a visa in advance to enter the Schengen zone and they can just travel to an open border crossing. There may be wait there and people may be prioritised based on a number of factors, but there is still an endeavour to make this as simple as possible and get the maximum rate of people processed.
 
Of course, but I was saying how he (Putin) does present it to the Russian people. Lets be honest if the Russian people wanted freedom and democracy they would have chosen it, like Ukraine has. Although there are probably lots of people in Russia who would welcome democracy, there must still be a significant number of the Russian population that does not want democracy, otherwise Putin would not be in power, they have been told to fear the West (in some cases with a certain amount of justification) and Putin plays to that fear.
Are you serious? Elections are rigged and real opponents are either sent to jail or killed. How should democracy prevail under this kind of regime?
 
Not sure if discussed yet. It seems like Zelensky is pissed with NATO too

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/809287.html


President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky has again called on Russian President Vladimir Putin for a dialogue, stressing that Ukraine is ready to talk and seek compromises, but is not ready to capitulate.

"First of all, I'm ready for a dialogue, but we're not ready for surrender," Zelensky said in an interview with the American television channel ABC News, asked whether Ukraine is ready to comply with the demands of the Russian Federation for a ceasefire: to change the Constitution and refuse to join NATO, recognize Crimea as Russian, recognize the independence of the so-called LPR/DPR.

"Because it's not about me, it's about the people who elected me. Regarding NATO, I lost interest in this issue after we realized that NATO is not ready to accept Ukraine. The alliance is afraid of contradictory things and confrontation with the Russian Federation," he added.

He also noted that Ukraine does not want to be a country that "begs for something on its knees, and we are not going to be such a country, I do not want to be such a president."

"I'm talking about security guarantees. I think that we can discuss and find a compromise on the points about the temporarily occupied territories and unrecognized republics, which are not recognized by anyone except the Russian Federation," Zelensky said.

At the same time, he stressed that the key issue is how people in these territories will live, who want to be part of Ukraine.

"What needs to be done is Putin needs to start talking, start a dialogue, instead of living in an information balloon without oxygen. I think that's where he is," he said.
 
"Information balloon without oygen". Great phrasing
 
War in Ukraine: how far will Putin go? | The Economist



Well, that was depressing. It paints a picture of Putin as someone with total power inside Russia, isolated from everyone except a small circle of people who are committed all the way with him, and willing to escalate if needed all the way up and and including the use of nukes.
 
Sounds like Zelensky wants to find middle ground as well. Could we be in for the end of war?
 
Make no mistake China has all the imperialist ambitions of Britain, US, Romans and Greeks rolled into one. They're sitting and watching right now but whether it's in 10 years or 50 years they will be in Taiwan and that will only be the start.

Calm down dear :lol:

Anyway think we need a new thread for all the China boogeyman discussion. To keep this one on topic of course.
 

Not dismissing the terrible nature of whatever happened here.

But it all seems so staged. The car stopped perfectly next to what appears to be a static CCTV pole, the only camera in the area.
 
Well, that was depressing. It paints a picture of Putin as someone with total power inside Russia, isolated from everyone except a small circle of people who are committed all the way with him, and willing to escalate if needed all the way up and and including the use of nukes.

Depends who you are listening to. The Putin ex-advisor doesn't think he will go nuke. Thinks he will push the envelope but won't cross that line.
 
Yes, there are simply not sufficient people in Russia who want democracy enough to do anything about it!

The problem here is that the Russian people have never even really experienced democracy. Under the Tsars, many people were virtually slaves (serfs), Stalin had total power and murdered millions, no democracy under the Communist Party leaders that followed, then a brief "something" with the collapse of the Soviet Union until Putin took over.
 
Not dismissing the terrible nature of whatever happened here.

But it all seems so staged. The car stopped perfectly next to what appears to be a static CCTV pole, the only camera in the area.
I thought that too I must say.
 
Not dismissing the terrible nature of whatever happened here.

But it all seems so staged. The car stopped perfectly next to what appears to be a static CCTV pole, the only camera in the area.
I thought that too I must say.

Except, you know, the next Tweet in the Twitter thread shows the car with bodies in it. But I guess that must be staged as well. Right?
 
Not dismissing the terrible nature of whatever happened here.

But it all seems so staged. The car stopped perfectly next to what appears to be a static CCTV pole, the only camera in the area.
I thought that too I must say.

Watch it closely. The old man obviously sees the military vehicles coming from the other way (you can just about see this through the brush from the video) and rightfully stops, as anyone would.

Cameras are ubiquitous these days, how do you know it's the only one in the area?