Zen
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tbh, his stats haven't been good since....like ever. he's there for the crazy "magic" moment he does, which he still does, but it's certainly waning.
I don't think we would be that much like RAWK given there would be more criticism of the manager and players than is allowed on RAWK.We are second in the league, and this place is in meltdown. I shudder to think what this place will become once SAF leaves. We laugh at RAWK, but at this rate we will become them.
11 Assists this season. Our 4th highest. Not bad for a 38 year old.tbh, his stats haven't been good since....like ever. he's there for the crazy "magic" moment he does, which he still does, but it's certainly waning.
For what it's worth, I agree with this post mate. However, it still doesn't excuse, in my opinion, some of the things people have said about him. Hell, it seems as though he's an unpleasant man so rip him apart on that, just show a bit more respect for the footballing legend.There's no room for sentiment in the quest for glory, AVARiCE.
A long post which again doesn't really argue against what I said. For everything you've just said I still maintain that there's no excuse for some of the things that have been said in this thread. If you think that some of it has been merely critical then that's your perogative. I think you're wrong.No you're the one who needs to have a word and stop accusing people of knee-jerk reactions or being bitter about the game. Take a look at my posts in the match day threads through most of the season, Giggs has been the single player I have criticised the most throughout the season. He's been wank. All he ever does is stand around until he receives the ball, then when he has it he will make a surging run to no where and lose it again, or if he doesn't do that he will try a pass he has no right attempting and again give away possession and in fact he has even laboured over simple short passes this season. He doesn't have the legs and he seemingly could not give a shit about tracking back to defend either. In fact his nonchalance in tracking back was glaringly obvious last season too, as seen when Hernandez had to fecking do it for him against Blackpool. Hernandez, our striker as well as Rooney was doing it for him last night too. I'm sorry but even legends have to play for the team.
Giggs is a legend, he should go out that way. The only car-crash I see in this thread is the people unwilling to accept that Giggs has had his best days and that he should at best take a back seat but ideally retire. He doesn't add enough to the team any more, regardless of the amount of sentiment people hold for him and just because he is a legend, that doesn't mean he shouldn't be above criticism. This isn't RAWK.
Perhaps you need to be more specific about what you meant in the post then? You were as vague as I apparently was.For what it's worth, I agree with this post mate. However, it still doesn't excuse, in my opinion, some of the things people have said about him. Hell, it seems as though he's an unpleasant man so rip him apart on that, just show a bit more respect for the footballing legend.
A long post which again doesn't really argue against what I said. For everything you've just said I still maintain that there's no excuse for some of the things that have been said in this thread. If you think that some of it has been merely critical then that's your perogative. I think you're wrong.
I'm not saying (and I can't see where I inferred, to be honest) that Giggsy is beyond criticism or even the calls for his head. I'm saying that telling one of our legends to eff off isn't particularly sharp. Regardless of what you say, there's some vitriol behind these statements that I'm pretty damn sure stem from the result last night.
Again, I'm not even offering my opinion on his performances this season, I'm just offering some perspective. Ryan Giggs shouldn't be spoken of in such a disgusting way by "United" fans. That's not 'Top Red' bull, that's reality.
It's perfectly clear.I'm pretty sure my post is clear that it has everything to do with the way people have been talking about him mate.
I hope that when they do pack it up, they stay on at United as coaches. Those two embody what United is all about. Working under Fergie for all these years has been a brilliant education in football management and that kind of thing can't be bought.people questioned Scholes legs etc last season, he then retired and came back 6 months later to be arguably our main reason for our title charge
its dangerous to wish for players to retire, they may actually do it
I actually didn't think he played all that well today.Credit where its due, very good today.
He worked harder today and as such made himself available a lot more often, less fannying around as well and held the ball up well.I actually didn't think he played all that well today.
Lost influance on the game after half time. Scholes and Carrick dominated CM, Giggs didn't really do much.
And I'm normally singing his praises.
True but it seemed like Rooney kept dropping into where Giggs should have been and at time Giggs was playing as the main striker.He worked harder today and as such made himself available a lot more often, less fannying around as well and held the ball up well.
Ditto but we has nobody to replace him with. Embarrassing.I wanted him subbed around the time Sunderland were pressing us in the second half, but I agree overall he played well.
Why not? He was brilliant today - he thrives very well in that AM-role, but as a CM I'm more concerned as his defending is at time quite atrocious. Notice how he always faces towards the opposition's goal when receiving the ball - that's great for our attack, but it does mean that he loses the ball a bit more. When you have to behind him to cover that normally is no more than a little concern.He shouldn't be starting games any more.
Whose position on the wing do you see a 40 year old taking?I hope we've see the last of him as a CM ever for Man United.AM is where he's at his best and as a sub on the wing.In the middle, he just cannot do it anymore
I mean off the bench,when there is 10-15 minutes in order to create some havoc, he could play on the left.Whose position on the wing do you see a 40 year old taking?
Nah! He's not looked like getting a goal tbh when he's been on the pitch - sub or no sub recently. Henrandez of last year it would have been a no-brainer not to put him on with 30 mins left.Think we could have grabbed a few more goals if around 60-65mins if Hernandez came on for him. Especially against tired legs.
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More like a symbolic 1%. I love Giggsy but that would just rip the piss.If he can't play that often, he could get to 1000 by the 2015-16 season if he plays 23 games a season. But he'd be 43 by the end of that season, that's still quite a risky bet.
I'd think he the odds of Giggs making 1000 games is about 30-40%
Now, at 99/1 I could see some value in that market.More like a symbolic 1%. I love Giggsy but that would just rip the piss.
You make it sound like nobody has appreciated all he has done, nobody does not consider him a true legend.Finally a thread that actually admires the man, and not that bollocks on how some wish he'd hang up his boots.