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He has issues. The way he talks about women is wrong.
Too late, the Caf has already found him guilty on all countsSo this blackmail 'sex video' she talked about in her testimony turns out to be a ball of smoke.
The defense revealed today the video was of her and her friends dancing. There was no sex tape blackmail , the name of the email was obviously meant in jest.
Under cross examination Greville said she never actually watched the video but assumed it was of a sexual nature. That is just not believable.
She was also very ''unlucky'' to lose two phones the police requested off her during the investigation , one was stolen and other lost in a river while chasing a dog. She also admitted deleting messages before handing over another phone.
Giggs may very well be guilty and if he is then he deserves everything coming to him , but this is not as clear a cut case as the headlines suggest, she is not coming across as a very reliable witness.
Labelling people as scum and seeing black and white without looking at the evidence is a very superfiscial outlook to life.He's scum, and I hope United fans forget about him as soon as possible.
Talking as if this particular case is the only scummy thing he's done.Labelling people as scum and seeing black and white without looking at the evidence is a very superfiscial outlook to life.
I've read through the evidence and I see shades of grey more than anything in this case. Ryan Giggs has entitled behaviour but I'm not sure he's a terrible character either.
IE the alledged assault, which is the worst crime. The girlfriend illegally stole Giggs phone from him. She won't give it him back so he forcibly tries to remove it from her. Her sister attempts to pull him off the ex-girlfriend. He either elbows or pushes the sister off and comes together with the ex girlfriend either purposefully headbutting or knocking into her. The ex girlfriend has very minor lip swelling without any breakage of skin. It's not a major injury that a full forced headbutt would cause.
Actually, there isn't. There's speculation he might be a bit of an ass, but not proof.Talking as if this particular case is the only scummy thing he's done.
Whether or not this case turns out to be a load of shit, there's more than enough evidence to show Giggs is a shiteous human being.
he fecked his brothers wife, there is no question that he is an absolute scumbagActually, there isn't. There's speculation he might be a bit of an ass, but not proof.
He's a serial adulterer and cheated with his brother's wife. That's enough proof for me aside from these alleged instances during the trial which isn't looking good for him so far.Actually, there isn't. There's speculation he might be a bit of an ass, but not proof.
I dont think it looks good for either of them really, the phone thing is shades of Jamie Vardy's missus dropping her phone off of a cruise ship.He's a serial adulterer and cheated with his brother's wife. That's enough proof for me aside from these alleged instances during the trial which isn't looking good for him so far.
Oh, kinda forgot about that, the cnut.he fecked his brothers wife, there is no question that he is an absolute scumbag
You are probably right about this particular case but he shagged his brother's wife for 8 years. That's enough to call him a scumLabelling people as scum and seeing black and white without looking at the evidence is a very superfiscial outlook to life.
I've read through the evidence and I see shades of grey more than anything in this case. Ryan Giggs has entitled behaviour but I'm not sure he's a terrible character either.
IE the alledged assault, which is the worst crime. The girlfriend illegally stole Giggs phone from him. She won't give it him back so he forcibly tries to remove it from her. Her sister attempts to pull him off the ex-girlfriend. He either elbows or pushes the sister off and comes together with the ex girlfriend either purposefully headbutting or knocking into her. The ex girlfriend has very minor lip swelling without any breakage of skin. It's not a major injury that a full forced headbutt would cause.
100% he’s cheated on pretty much everyone he’s been with by the sounds of things. An entitled and vicious guy when he’s called out on it. I’m glad someone is speaking out on him so he can’t continue to treat women in the same way behind the scenes. As we’ve seen a million times you can be brilliant at your job, loved by millions and still be a total POS. Psychopaths usually excel in whatever field they chose to get involved in because they will stab anyone in the back to get what they need.Talking as if this particular case is the only scummy thing he's done.
Whether or not this case turns out to be a load of shit, there's more than enough evidence to show Giggs is a shiteous human being.
It sounds like she did some things in this relationship that were the product of the toxicity surrounding it but there are clear power dynamics in play here that indicate he is a highly manipulative cnut with clear social behavioural issues.I dont think it looks good for either of them really, the phone thing is shades of Jamie Vardy's missus dropping her phone off of a cruise ship.
But Giggs has a chequered history so isn't a white Knight obviously and has issues around women which is known.
I dont disagree for sure, my sister has been through a lot with her soon to be ex husband and i understand how that works for sure in terms of behavior modification and the emotional stress that goes into that.It sounds like she did some things in this relationship that were the product of the toxicity surrounding it but there are clear power dynamics in play here that indicate he is a highly manipulative cnut with clear social behavioural issues.
This is a CPS prosecution though so presumably they considered those convenient evidentiary gaps when deciding to press charges (unlike Rebakah Vardy’s civil case where the only obstacle was to determine just how much of her husband‘s money she wanted to set fire to).I dont think it looks good for either of them really, the phone thing is shades of Jamie Vardy's missus dropping her phone off of a cruise ship.
But Giggs has a chequered history so isn't a white Knight obviously and has issues around women which is known.
While I wouldnt want Giggs anywhere near any of my female family, the CPS has a long history of prosecuting the rich and famous for publicity, especially if they are not from the upper class establishment.This is a CPS prosecution though so presumably they considered those convenient evidentiary gaps when deciding to press charges (unlike Rebakah Vardy’s civil case where the only obstacle was to determine just how much of her husband‘s money she wanted to set fire to).
That makes him an adulterous POS and a crap brother.He's a serial adulterer and cheated with his brother's wife. That's enough proof for me aside from these alleged instances during the trial which isn't looking good for him so far.
when did I say it did? The poster said there was no proof he was an ass. Being a serial cheat and cheating with your brothers wife makes you a massive asshole to me.That makes him an adulterous POS and a crap brother.
But it has utterly nothing to do with the current case.
This is the problem with celebrity culture. It brings out emotional and irrational responses in us on things we know nothing about.
It’s become a warped sort of entertainment in this new dystopian reality we are in.
A few excerts:
Kate Greville, 38, denied having “active, regular and very enthusiastic sex” with the former Manchester United star at the time she had a contraceptive coil removed in October 2020.
Greville sent messages to a friend that month saying “I need a plan” and “I am not walking away with nothing”, Manchester crown court was told.
She was questioned by Giggs’s barrister, Chris Daw QC, who said: “Your plan was to get pregnant by Mr Giggs.” Giving evidence from behind a screen, Greville replied: “No, absolutely not.” She said that she had been talking about “walking away” with her golden retriever puppy Mac in the text message.
Photographs of Kate’s alleged injuries were shown to the jury and the court was told that two police cars with flashing blue lights were sent to the scene.
“She (Kate) was sat on the floor of the kitchen and very upset,” one of the police officers wrote in a statement that was read to the jury. “I could see straight away she had a swollen top and bottom lip with significant bruising.”
Giggs was taken into the hallway and could be heard on the bodycam footage telling a police officer the couple had been out for a meal and had an argument — “she’s accused me of a couple of things” — and that he’d followed her home where they “got into a little bit of a tangle”.
“I’ve tried to get my phone off her, we struggled on the floor, she kicked me in the head, bust my lip. Then it’s all calmed down,” he says.
Giggs, who stepped down as Wales national manager in June, goes on to say that he went outside to ask his next-door neighbour to call the police.
The neighbour, he says, did not want to get involved. Giggs returned to the house where, according to his account, there had “been a struggle… I’ve hit her on the lip, I got injured first, then it calmed down”.
He is asked whether his then-girlfriend will give the police the same version of events.
“She’s going to say that I’ve attacked her,” he says.
That's the worst dog related excuse since Harry Redknapp's bank account in his dog's nameA few excerts:
Kate Greville, 38, denied having “active, regular and very enthusiastic sex” with the former Manchester United star at the time she had a contraceptive coil removed in October 2020.
Greville sent messages to a friend that month saying “I need a plan” and “I am not walking away with nothing”, Manchester crown court was told.
She was questioned by Giggs’s barrister, Chris Daw QC, who said: “Your plan was to get pregnant by Mr Giggs.” Giving evidence from behind a screen, Greville replied: “No, absolutely not.” She said that she had been talking about “walking away” with her golden retriever puppy Mac in the text message.