Saúl Ñíguez \ Joins Chelsea on loan

[sp_107]

Keans knows something about midfield and he keeps on saying this for more than a year that we cant anything with Fred/McTominay in the midfield (he got a soft corner for McTominay though as we can use him as a backup)

Means we defintely need a proper DM to unleash Pogba/Bruno in the midfield of 3. Not sure if Saul/Neves can do that. May be someone in Bissouma/Touchamemi mould can help us as we cant play Pogba on left side for the entire season

 

[ZolaWasMagic]

Im still not convinced he'll come to the prem by the end of this window

 

[laughtersassassin]

Yeah looks like he’s Chelsea bound. Not fussed at all about this. Now we are left with Camavinga and Neves? If we pull out of the Saul deal, perhaps we have receive some positive encouragement from either one of the two

I'm not fussed about who we get but we have to get a good CM/DM this summer.

 

[Widow]

He's 26. What makes you think he's on a decline?

His performances over the last few seasons. Avarage at best.

 

[laughtersassassin]

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How naïve are we? It doesn't have to be Saul but we need a Midfielder!

Our Midfield will clearly be our downfall and we just are going to ignore it?

 

[Fooza]

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How naïve are we? It doesn't have to be Saul but we need a Midfielder!

Our Midfield will clearly be our downfall and we just are going to ignore it?

David Kent from the mail? hardly believable source

 

[LawCharltonBest]

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How naïve are we? It doesn't have to be Saul but we need a Midfielder!

Our Midfield will clearly be our downfall and we just are going to ignore it?

Early signs are that we are persisting with the more defensive minded 4-2-3-1 formation.

Matic, Fred and McTominay are the only three players that we have that can naturally play in the midfield 2.

So yes, it seems very weird that we would ignore that area. Should have kept Garner really if we have no plans to strengthen that position.

I would also say we’re failing Varane and Sancho if we don’t strengthen CM, because we aren’t getting the best out of either of them without a midfield that can compete

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

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How naïve are we? It doesn't have to be Saul but we need a Midfielder!

Our Midfield will clearly be our downfall and we just are going to ignore it?

That's a crap source, no?

 

[laughtersassassin]

David Kent from the mail? hardly believable source

Not really just him saying this.

Most are saying no incoming loan or purchase without some major sales.

And well we are very bad at selling players so it looks like we will be stuck with players we got no use for as things stand.

 

[laughtersassassin]

Early signs are that we are persisting with the more defensive minded 4-2-3-1 formation.

Matic, Fred and McTominay are the only three players that we have that can naturally play in the midfield 2.

So yes, it seems very weird that we would ignore that area. Should have kept Garner really if we have no plans to strengthen that position.

I would also say we’re failing Varane and Sancho if we don’t strengthen CM, because we aren’t getting the best out of either of them without a midfield that can compete

Spot on!

 

[Fooza]

Not really just him saying this.

Most are saying no incoming loan or purchase without some major sales.

And well we are very bad at selling players so it looks like we will be stuck with players we got no use for as things stand.

I'd say that's looking likely to be fair, it'll be a frustrating end to the window that started off amazing.

 

[sewey89]

David Mail from Kent? Crap source

 

[laughtersassassin]

I'd say that's looking likely to be fair, it'll be a frustrating end to the window that started off amazing.

To me it's not acceptable really.

Especially since Ole only plays Fred Matic or McTominay in the two.

How can that be our only options? It's actually mental tbh.

 

[rotherham_red]

Not really just him saying this.

Most are saying no incoming loan or purchase without some major sales.

And well we are very bad at selling players so it looks like we will be stuck with players we got no use for as things stand.

It's not just us tbf. Almost every team around us is struggling to make sales.

 

[laughtersassassin]

It's not just us tbf. Almost every team around us is struggling to make sales.

Not strictly true. Chelsea have managed to make some good sales. Liverpool too. Shaqiri, Wilson both for decent fees. Some random Centre forward as well

And those two teams are always good at sales.

For us it's a pattern. Every season. Very clearly we are bad at selling players.

I checked transfermarket and very few teams have 0 sales. Chelsea Liverpool and City have all managed a few and we are competing with them.

We have sold nobody despite having a lot of players for sale. It's poor. Simple as that. It can't be an excuse to have a shit Midfield

 

[Sean_RedDevil]

Early signs are that we are persisting with the more defensive minded 4-2-3-1 formation.

Matic, Fred and McTominay are the only three players that we have that can naturally play in the midfield 2.

So yes, it seems very weird that we would ignore that area. Should have kept Garner really if we have no plans to strengthen that position.

I would also say we’re failing Varane and Sancho if we don’t strengthen CM, because we aren’t getting the best out of either of them without a midfield that can compete

Well said

Hannibal will never play for us under Solskjaer in this system.

He would be perfect in the midfield.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

Neves is honestly the player, at the prices quoted. Camavinga would be a boon and one for the future but solves nothing

 

[ghagua]

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How naïve are we? It doesn't have to be Saul but we need a Midfielder!

Our Midfield will clearly be our downfall and we just are going to ignore it?

Exactly, and it showed against Southampton where the midfield looked like a Sunday league team's midfield. We could not string 2-3 passes without losing the ball.

 

[SER19]

It's not just us tbf. Almost every team around us is struggling to make sales.

I don't know, Chelsea have sold 80m worth, city 35m, arsenal managed about 27m for willock.

We have a real problem selling players. Lingard, Jones, James, Bailly, Matic, Pereira or take your pick of 3 or 4 from 8 or 9 players we should be shifting fairly easily for small fees that all add up. Its a symptom of years of horrific management.

 

[laughtersassassin]

I don't know, Chelsea have sold 80m worth, city 35m, arsenal managed about 27m for willock.

We have a real problem selling players. Lingard, Jones, James, Bailly, Matic, Pereira or take your pick of 3 or 4 from 8 or 9 players we should be shifting fairly easily for small fees that all add up. Its a symptom of years of horrific management.

It isn't true but people are pretending it is.

The list for anyone interested:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1

Wouldn't pay much attention to the fees but shows who's been sold.

Our 3 rivals have sold players. The excuses don't work for us.

 

[choccy77]

Been out all day, have we signed him?

 

[friendlytramp]

Mbappe -> Madrid
Pogba -> PSG
Saul -> Utd (on loan)

 

[Gandalf]

It isn't true but people are pretending it is.

The list for anyone interested:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/transfers/wettbewerb/GB1

Wouldn't pay much attention to the fees but shows who's been sold.

Our 3 rivals have sold players. The excuses don't work for us.

Biggest issue is that we either decide we want to keep players who we could sell because 'depth' or we overvalue them. Loads of comments about selling Lingard and we are believed to have set a value of 25M which quite a lot of our posters think is realistic or at least only marginally too much when in fact it is a mental ask and we are never getting it. Liverpool selling Shaqiri was mentioned but he was sold for 9.5M with about 3M more in potential add ons and whilst he can be lazy he is a far better and more influential player than Jesse and a similar age. We need to lower our sights for the players we are selling and we also need to consider sanctioning the sales of players who have value but are unlikely to get many minutes.

 

[laughtersassassin]

Mbappe -> Madrid
Pogba -> PSG
Saul -> Utd (on loan)

We'd be even worse....

Won't happen

 

[Ikon]

Exactly, and it showed against Southampton where the midfield looked like a Sunday league team's midfield. We could not string 2-3 passes without losing the ball.

But in a post match interview, Solskjaer said "Matic was excellent today" when explaining why Donny was snubbed yet again..?!?

 

[Kentonio]

But how come Atlético are so desperate to get rid of him?

Supposedly hes on around 300k euros at Atletico, and the Spanish clubs are all having to deal with the new wage restrictions this year.

 

[Dazzmondo]

This feels exactly like the van de Beek transfer. Just signing a midfielder because he happens to be available even though he doesn't fit what we need at all. How does Saul help bring stability to the midfield exactly? Even in his best seasons the move wouldn't make sense, not to mind after the season he's just had. Seems like we're cheaping out because we don't want to spend a fee. Not a fan of Neves and think he's very overrated but he'd definitely make more sense than Saul if Camavinga and Tchouaméni aren't options (wouldn't even be completely against Bissouma tbh even though he is a bit more box to box than dm).

 

[JoeyJoJoJrShabadoo]

Talk is we are distancing ourselves from the deal

 

[SATA]

His wages at Atletico is massive. Perhaps United think a 25-30M deal and 100K a week for either Neves or Camavinga is a better deal in the long run? I don’t know but i am just being optimistic here

 

[JohnZSmith27]

His wages at Atletico is massive. Perhaps United think a 25-30M deal and 100K a week for either Neves or Camavinga is a better deal in the long run? I don’t know but i am just being optimistic here

Yeah he's on serious money. Second highest at the club apparently.

 

[Pscholes18]

It's more the qualities Neves brings to the table, the fact he's grossly underrated online gives further confidence as many have held the same concerns to league players who have gone on to do well for other clubs.

Yes all of that as well

 

[roseguy64]

It stinks of when we were rumoured to be leading the race for Thiago last year.

I always saw it as Liverpool leading the race for him

 

[ghagua]

But in a post match interview, Solskjaer said "Matic was excellent today" when explaining why Donny was snubbed yet again..?!?

I am just as puzzled. Why not give him a run out for a few games and see what he has to offer. I mean he can't play any worse than the midfield played against Southampton.

 

[Tarrou]

He's 26. What makes you think he's on a decline?

I'm not an expert on Saul Niguez by any stretch but he does have serious kidney problems, which could be a reason he has declined

 

[croadyman]

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How naïve are we? It doesn't have to be Saul but we need a Midfielder!

Our Midfield will clearly be our downfall and we just are going to ignore it?

Yeah if this stance doesn't change between now and next Tuesday I really worry about our prospects this season

 

[croadyman]

His wages at Atletico is massive. Perhaps United think a 25-30M deal and 100K a week for either Neves or Camavinga is a better deal in the long run? I don’t know but i am just being optimistic here

I am that desperate for some kind of improvement will take signing any of them

 

[croadyman]

Smart bit of business if we get it done. If he flops he flops, we need to roll the dice.

Yeah but think we will end up having to play it safe due to not being able to sell anyone

 

[roseguy64]

Yeah he's probably the only one I can think of, even he stayed for over 1 year
True, we signed him with an option to buy though. He was so crap we sent him away.

We just don't really use the loan market like some clubs.

Ighalo stayed for 2 half seasons. All within a calendar year

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I'm not sure about this one. Haven't seen enough of Saul over the last few years but I don't like the idea of signing someone whose level has fallen.

Besides I do think we need a bit more class on the ball and passing ability than he may provide.

 

[sewey89]

I always saw it as Liverpool leading the race for him

Yeah, which they were. But our name kept being thrown in as a way of getting Liverpool to hurry up. I have a feeling that’s what’s happening here too