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Samuel Luckhurst - Should he be fired?

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Acole9

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Stopped looking at the MEN website for United transfer news about a month or so ago. Most of it is nothing but glorified clickbait.
 

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His article today though was just atrocious. Hes not a journalist, hes a blogger who pretends hes a journalist and looks down at people who disagree with him.

With regards to old tweets being dug up (always laugh that people go through the trouble of doing that), if they were innocent, they wouldnt be deleted is what I think.
 

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This thread made me crawl down a twitter rabbit hole of butt-hurt United fans piling on journos who dare to tweet anything negative about one of our transfer sagas. The absolute state of them.
Woody needs to throw us a bone soon, a horde of unsatisfied muppets can turn toxic and vigilant real fast.
 

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This thread made me crawl down a twitter rabbit hole of butt-hurt United fans piling on journos who dare to tweet anything negative about one of our transfer sagas. The absolute state of them.
Luckhurst getting roasted isn't because of one transfer story. He's constantly sneered at supporters and took himself far too importantly and today's rubbish was the tipping point.
 

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This thread made me crawl down a twitter rabbit hole of butt-hurt United fans piling on journos who dare to tweet anything negative about one of our transfer sagas. The absolute state of them.
Or you can find out why people are angry but yeah "shock horror, the absolute state of them"

not quite...while some melts misunderstood the re-tweets he did from some abhorrent people. The main crux of it was the fact he has a number of tweets where he calls someone an "idiot Asian fan" and other tweets where he says "suspicious tourists" sitting in the front row of some game or some shite

they think is infra-red as you can look back and confirm for yourself is going out of his way to avoid the obvious
 

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Or you can find out why people are angry but yeah "shock horror, the absolute state of them"
It's the mentality of people that feel the need to trawl back through hundreds of previous tweets to look for a way to get him back for damping down the hysteria about a hypothetical transfer that blows my mind. Get a life.

It's not just him either. I've seen a few journos getting dog's abuse for similar reasons (i.e. negativity re transfers)
 

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It's the mentality of people that feel the need to trawl back through hundreds of tweets to look for a way to get him back for damping down the hysteria about a hypothetical transfer that blows my mind. Get a life.
Yeah thats the real issue here not the xenophobic remarks for which people are actually annoyed about.
 

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It's the mentality of people that feel the need to trawl back through hundreds of tweets to look for a way to get him back for damping down the hysteria about a hypothetical transfer that blows my mind. Get a life.
The guy insulted United fans today saying we're fanboys who run on foreign media to believe them. Has nothing related to his previous tweets.

I don't think you know the main topic.
 

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Complete coincidence this blew up the same day he said that stuff about Fabinho not coming?
Not really but you are assuming that everyone went through his past tweets. The anger of the majority is based on his xenophobic remarks or do you think every one went through his past tweets? Its like complaining about somebody trying to solve a 20/30 year old case and bring the criminal to justice (extreme analogy but you get the point).
 

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Complete coincidence this blew up the same day he said that stuff about Fabinho not coming?
You clearly didn't read his main article today.

The below is taken from MEN just now:

The Fabinho situation explained
Twice this week the Monaco midfielder has spoken about the possibility of joining United, calling it ‘tempting’ and even being asked about his squad number on Brazilian television.

It’s a desperate tactic but it excites the online community. Fabinho is particularly popular among United fanboys who want the club to sign him as their defensive midfielder. He is ranking high on Google Trends and would be a quality addition and he’s also capable of playing at right-back, which would ease the workload on Antonio Valencia. Fabinho also briefly played for Mourinho at Real Madrid.

Unfortunately, the reality is United will not pursue a deal for Fabinho, which the M.E.N. reported earlier this month. Mourinho drew up a list of possible defensive midfield options months ago and Fabinho wasn’t on it.

Some fanboys are unhappy about that and are trying to make it happen, citing certain sections of the foreign media.

Here’s a pertinent question: If United had submitted an offer for Fabinho (they haven’t), why would Fabinho talk as if Monaco hadn’t received one? Answer: Because Monaco haven’t received one.

What’s mad is, in modern football, some fanboys don’t just cheer on players but they also cheer on ‘transfer gurus’ transfer ‘specialists’.

The likelihood is intermediaries and agents are fabricating or exaggerating interest to smoke out an actual bidder.
 

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I see the point Pogue is making, but it sort of has been bubbling up. I mean, you only have to go back in his replies from the past few weeks to see how often he resorts to phrases like 'never seen a game live in your life' or 'fanboys' (which he used just today) when debating/battling with fans on twitter, often with some sort of xenophobic undertone. In all, I don't think he's some sort of malicious villain who needs all this debate, he's just a very juvenile man bumping heads with juvenile fans on twitter -- whose MO is crawling through twitter posts from the past.

I personally find his journalistic standard pretty shoddy -- today's article was really bizarre, and earlier on in the season he was sniping the club for showing up late to one of the games when it really wasn't their fault. Then again, it could just be confirmation bias, I don't think I actively read the MEN and only ever check it when it's posted on the Caf, normally the circumstances of which aren't ordinary articles.
 

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Complete coincidence this blew up the same day he said that stuff about Fabinho not coming?
You have to say the manner in which the article was written was unusual for a professional journalist. fanboy this, believe the foreign media yeah? that... It might be the absolute contempt dripping from his pen (a keyboard really) that has broken the camel's back.
 

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Chat shit, get banged (much later).
It's their way. Just this season to Andre Gray after he scored a few goals against Liverpool, people trawled through his account and found those sexist/racist posts.
 

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This thread made me crawl down a twitter rabbit hole of butt-hurt United fans piling on journos who dare to tweet anything negative about one of our transfer sagas. The absolute state of them.
Interesting. You're smart guy but you still deliberately, or by a coincidence, put your bet on the wrong horse.
 

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Amazing. He went back through 5 years of teeets. Dedicated.
If you think someone had to physically click and read 5 years of tweets to get to that then I would like to introduce you to a little something called the "search feature" it will change your life...

Joking aside The big picture here is being glossed over with far to much effort.

Who cares when he made his xenophobic comments or if someone mentioned it. Fact is he has done it and not just once. I'm guessing that from your posts you don't care and that your alright with it but at the very least have the decency to say that, rather than dance around the obvious .

 

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I really don't agree with this petition of trying getting a guy fired from his job, poor form. If those tweets are legit then sure they're not good, but let's face it a lot of this is about an article over a player who we may or may not sign. What if we don't sign him? Will Di Marzio finally be the fall guy?
 

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Don't understand his need to be so antagonistic. You wonder what his colleagues like Mathieson must think.
 

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People that are saying it's over a transfer are completely missing the point.

That's why his wanky tweets have been unconvered yes. The unsavoury content of those tweets are what people are pissed off with.
 

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What's the context of the first tweet? I think he may have been defending Evra there rather than anything abusive.

But I've seen some of his other tweets that have been dragged out, I think he should be educated rather than sacked. He comes across more as ignorant than malicious.
How? Stuck in a classroom for a course of mind training? How would we know the kind of result you believe this education should result in had been achieved? Attach probes to his head and watch the incremental correction occurring in real time on a brain scanning device? At what point would you be happy that he now thought in the way you believe he should think? Give me some idea of the criteria and the method of measurement.
 

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Amazing. He went back through 5 years of teeets. Dedicated.
Not necessarily, all you have to do is search the persons username @_ _ _ _ and then a key word. You can pull up everything they tweeted using that word rather than going back through years of tweets.
 

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He seems to have a major problem with our fans from Asia for some reason, I mean we have fans from all over the world that goes to games as well so I don't understand his problem. I'm surprised he hasn't even come out with a statement or apologize for his past statements on fans even if he meant no malice, just shows what kind of man he is really. I stopped following him ages ago, always think his opinion is the shit, also after his disrespect and snide comments towards certain United players.
 

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How? Stuck in a classroom for a course of mind training? How would we know the kind of result you believe this education should result in had been achieved? Attach probes to his head and watch the incremental correction occurring in real time on a brain scanning device? At what point would you be happy that he now thought in the way you believe he should think? Give me some idea of the criteria and the method of measurement.
Calm down, I'm no expert in the field, I basically meant someone should have a word with him about the way he expresses himself. Similar to the media training that footballers are given.

He's certainly not done enough to warrant sacking imo.
 

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That crappy article could've been reduced to 'I'm fed up of people on Twitter bothering me.'
 
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Seriously? This a bloke that has grafted to work for a newspaper and some no mark is openly discussing his livelihood on an internet forum. It's easy to forget that people like Sam Luckhurst are actually fairly low paid and actually have bills to pay and mouths to feed. Believe it or not, he is a real person.

There are seriously deranged and damaged individuals that post on this forum. Like, seriously weird adult men.
 

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Seriously? This a bloke that has grafted to work for a newspaper and some no mark is openly discussing his livelihood on an internet forum. It's easy to forget that people like Sam Luckhurst are actually fairly low paid and actually have bills to pay and mouths to feed. Believe it or not, he is a real person.

There are seriously deranged and damaged individuals that post on this forum. Like, seriously weird adult men.
I'm all fairness, only a few people in this thread have called for him to be sacked as far as I can see?
I do think he's a tool but sacking him would be unfair
 

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He just gets off on being argumentative.
Yes off course...

Seriously. Wake up and open your eyes. If this guy are in danger to lose his job it's because of his shitty attitude against other nationality's, nothing else. What are you defending?
 

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Seriously? This a bloke that has grafted to work for a newspaper and some no mark is openly discussing his livelihood on an internet forum. It's easy to forget that people like Sam Luckhurst are actually fairly low paid and actually have bills to pay and mouths to feed. Believe it or not, he is a real person.

There are seriously deranged and damaged individuals that post on this forum. Like, seriously weird adult men.
Your opinion is that because he's low paid he can write whatever xenophobic shite he wants?
 
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