Stop that
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Boris's tummy rumble?
Thank you for a polite response. As I said I appreciate seeing it first hand will change opinions.
I can only go on my own experience. I don’t know any who’s had it, the only deaths I have heard of in my area were from a care home. I have family that work at our local hospital where numbers have been very low for 6 months now. We’re had a huge influx of tourist this summer which was meant to cause an increase, it didn’t happen. I’ve just got to the point where you wonder what’s all the fuss about.
Were back to only go to the office if you have too I see.
Look at the places where the initial outbreaks were, Leicester, Pendle, Oldham etc. I think most were places with significant Asian populations. You can look at the detail for Oldham here on the government website
https://www.oldham.gov.uk/covid19data
Over the 28 days leading up to the 11 September the highest number of cases were in the Asian/Asian British group.
Those in the Asian/Asian British population may be more vulnerable to catching the virus due to higher numbers working in public-facing higher risk roles such as health care, transport, retail and hospitality. In addition, larger household size will be affecting the number of cases spread within individual households.
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It was obvious he was reading off a teleprompter. As to the content, well it was just everything we heard in parliament earlier. Just watered down for the masses.
Yes and we should just forget he was boasting about shaking hands with potentially infected covid patients at hospital and letting huge crowds gather at events in March
Not that it is biggest flaw in your thought processes, but you are not very good with numbers either.
At least we'll have another eat out to help out scheme again soon, to undo any progress made by this lockdown.
Boris looking a lot better...... well as well as fat, money grabbing, privileged Tory can look 
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.But is anyone really listening. Or has he lost the dressing room.
Very well said. It was the stupidest waste of public money.
A godsend for hospitality, especially if venues are shut over the Christmas season
I’m referring to ICU not general.
I wonder how many fake meals there actually were?
I must be terrible with numbers seeing as I’m a chartered accountant. Maybe check your grammar when criticising others.
I doubt he even had the dressing room to begin with.
It did provide some much needed bouyancy to a decimated hospitality industry. Basic data, but shows about 30% increase of revenue from the prior year, and spread across the week (not just Mon-Wed).
https://catererlicensee.com/data-shows-positive-impact-of-governments-eat-out-to-help-out-scheme/
It would have been a godsend if they did it in October or November. Most of my old mates in hospitality said they were already full every day through August and struggling to cope as it was so in the end it was just giving away cash with no discernible benefit.
Which hospitals do they work at? The only ones that could even suggest they were quiet, must have been based in very rural settings. Based on cases around March-May time, most of those were in the very South West, Wales, and Northern Scotland. Outside of that, pretty much every hospital was reporting strong patient numbers in ICU.
So David Moyes has tested positive, and a couple of West Ham players, shouldn’t all the team be in isolation then?
I will let you off then.
Not if the 4 week bonanza leads to months of closures.
Thanks, means a lot. Did you find your mistake yet?
What a criminal mind...
What I wrote is correct. The death rate against world population isn’t even 0.001%. That isn’t to say it is 0.001%, it’s far less than that.
I work for an extremely large brewery and can go on record and say that in my area, bar 2 pubs, every pub is operating at LFL loss this year post covid.
If you're lucky enough to work for a summer venue already then sound you might have been fine, many venues don't have that luxury.
I actually do, I work in a pub along the Thames and we were still busier during eat out to help out than we would have been without.
Your friends must work in some pretty spectacular venues, fair play to them.
I think it's a two way system there. The government is always going to shift blame. Politicians are experts at that and definitely aren't experts at medical science. On the other hand people also seem happy to blame the government or use covid for political point scoring, yet pay little or no attention themselves to guidelines or the scientific advice.
I also doubt very much the proportion would have been a negligible factor. You can guarantee every time a kid in a school falls ill for example (and kids get colds and bugs a LOT), half the parents with kids in that class will be demanding tests regardless of whether their child or anyone in their household has symptoms. You can argue the government should have seen factors like that coming, but they probably did, it's just that expecting the testing capacity to keep up with people's ability to panic was never realistic. Even 500,000 tests a day might not be enough to keep up once cold and flu are fully doing the rounds...I even suspect part of the reason for the restrictions now is they might be hoping it keeps the flu numbers down a bit as well.
Winter peak was predicted long before eat out to help out. Was going to happen regardless.
Like it doesn't happen.Most of the ones I’m referring to work in various restaurants and hotels across Cornwall. They were all full every single day, there wasn’t a single AirBnB, campsite or hotel room that wasn’t fully booked in August.
Well I suspect that's the case in Cornwall.
Is it winter. I thought it is the first day of Autumn.
Seriously. The government encouragement for people to go out for a cut price meal sent a signal to many that the risk of socialising was low. And just over 2 weeks later we can see it had an effect by so many flouting the rules.
I have a number of friends who stopped distancing and stopped wearing face coverings after that.
Right and it was a very similar story in almost every holiday hotspot across the country so why do it at a time when the majority of the country were already on holiday spending money they were going to spend anyway? It doesn’t matter where they were spending it they were always planning to spend it.
It would have made more sense to hold it back for a slower period to encourage spending when places are traditionally quiet.
We've only just started providing certain services again and a lot of people have seen being able to get into the office and see people as a massive relief on their mental health.WFH indefinitely it is then. We just spent about a month deliberating on safety measures to return us to the office
It's really frustrating tbh. I was hoping they'd have a better plan than just giving out the same vague advice that allowed the country to behave like selfish dicks the first time around. Being stuck at home is going to be a lot harder for people in the winter as well. They'll need actual support from the people who find it a luxury and the first time around that was practically non existent when it came to workplaces.
I'm also kind of hoping our workplace will let people come in who feel they need to for their mental health, and generally there'll be more understanding in regards to the at risk people and allowing them to maintain some kind of life. Having people live in misery for a few months for the greater good is one thing. Asking them to do it effectively for the best part of a year means you start to wonder if you're taking more away from people's lives than you're saving.
On the plus side hopefully the roads will quiten down a bit again. Driving has started to revert back to being stressful the last few weeks!
That's what I was hoping we were going to do at my place. The plan was that we could come in 1 day a week (optional) and then 2 days in November. Was/am still hoping it happens to give people a reprieve.
However, they also told me they're taking my desk away due to spacing issues and would put me on another floor so I'm not fussed anymore
Also yes to driving. I'm learning now and the roads are getting packed again.
Ahhh. Me too. I just couldn't picture it! Ha!
And what about the venues that aren't in holiday spots that had already been shut for months? feck em?
I think it is conjecture to say that people without symptons are getting a significant number of tests.
Reality is, if anyone exhibits cold or flu symptons then surely they require a test? When school kids go back to school, or University students go back yo Uni and get "freshers flu" it always coincides with a spike in cold/flu symptons.
When you consider that the WHO say that testing is a key part of the strategy to contain the virus and we need to be testing anyone with symptons. I think your accusations are unfair and slightly unfounded, unless you are simply regurgitating the UK government's line.
The eat out to help out scheme started nearly two months ago.
It's really easy to criticise but the alternative is we could have all stayed in lockdown all summer and be in more or less the exact same position we are now anyway. At best we'd have bought ourselves a few weeks more time, but the trade off would have been economical damage that would have bought countless more earlier deaths and suffering to potentially millions.
I can think of at least one friend who being able to see and socialise with over the past month or so has probably stopped them doing something very silly.
At least giving people some semblance of a summer allowed the economy a chance and allowed people a chance to feel like they can cope.