Stop thatBoris is a great orator.
Stop thatBoris is a great orator.
Thank you for a polite response. As I said I appreciate seeing it first hand will change opinions.Pretty valid. I can't argue with that.
Equally, you shouldn't generalise by saying that the "media overscaled the drama", "hospitals were never at full capacity" etc. You saying blanket statements like this anger me because you have no idea what some hospitals/hospital staff have seen in that regard. When I saw a fit-and-healthy 28 year old lad die within the space of 3 days of coming into hospital with COVID, I certainly didn't think the "media overscaled".
You may end up being right, and the second wave may not happen. But after seeing first hand what the first wave was and hearing that the second wave can potentially be worse - then I'd prefer if people could just be sensible. I'm not saying that I feel lucky or unlucky that I was able to continue to work during COVID. I sympathise massively with every single person who were financially hit by it all.
Were back to only go to the office if you have too I see.Boris wittering on about winning and success. Just feck off you bumbling old sociopath
Look at the places where the initial outbreaks were, Leicester, Pendle, Oldham etc. I think most were places with significant Asian populations. You can look at the detail for Oldham here on the government websiteDo you have any facts to back that up?
It was obvious he was reading off a teleprompter. As to the content, well it was just everything we heard in parliament earlier. Just watered down for the masses.Needs a better script then, one that the majority will understand what he is saying.
Too much mumbo jumbo
Yes and we should just forget he was boasting about shaking hands with potentially infected covid patients at hospital and letting huge crowds gather at events in MarchNarrative set that all this is the plebs fault
Not that it is biggest flaw in your thought processes, but you are not very good with numbers either.You’re missing the point though. This is meant to be a ‘deadly’ virus yet it’s death rate is not even 0.001% of the worlds population. Less than 1% of people tested have died and we all know getting tested in this country is impossible let alone somewhere like India.
Be cautious yes, but restrictions causing economic damage isn’t the answer this time.
But is anyone really listening. Or has he lost the dressing room.It was obvious he was reading off a teleprompter. As to the content, well it was just everything we heard in parliament earlier. Just watered down for the masses.
Very well said. It was the stupidest waste of public money.At least we'll have another eat out to help out scheme again soon, to undo any progress made by this lockdown.
A godsend for hospitality, especially if venues are shut over the Christmas seasonVery well said. It was the stupidest waste of public money.
I’m referring to ICU not general.Are they based on ICU wards or general wards? Considering hospitals stopped pretty much every other service, bar covid from March-May, it doesn't surprise me that those not on covid duty weren't busy. Non-covid ward capacity is not a measure of how much impact the virus has had.
I wonder how many fake meals there actually were?Very well said. It was the stupidest waste of public money.
I must be terrible with numbers seeing as I’m a chartered accountant. Maybe check your grammar when criticising others.Not that it is biggest flaw in your thought processes, but you are not very good with numbers either.
I doubt he even had the dressing room to begin with.But is anyone really listening. Or has he lost the dressing room.
It did provide some much needed bouyancy to a decimated hospitality industry. Basic data, but shows about 30% increase of revenue from the prior year, and spread across the week (not just Mon-Wed).Very well said. It was the stupidest waste of public money.
It would have been a godsend if they did it in October or November. Most of my old mates in hospitality said they were already full every day through August and struggling to cope as it was so in the end it was just giving away cash with no discernible benefit.A godsend for hospitality, especially if venues are shut over the Christmas season
Which hospitals do they work at? The only ones that could even suggest they were quiet, must have been based in very rural settings. Based on cases around March-May time, most of those were in the very South West, Wales, and Northern Scotland. Outside of that, pretty much every hospital was reporting strong patient numbers in ICU.I’m referring to ICU not general.
Glad we agree, sorry for your clients.I must be terrible with numbers seeing as I’m a chartered accountant. Maybe check your grammar when criticising others.
I will let you off then.Glad we agree, sorry for your clients.
Not my mother tongue.
Not if the 4 week bonanza leads to months of closures.A godsend for hospitality, especially if venues are shut over the Christmas season
Thanks, means a lot. Did you find your mistake yet?I will let you off then.
What a criminal mind...I wonder how many fake meals there actually were?
What I wrote is correct. The death rate against world population isn’t even 0.001%. That isn’t to say it is 0.001%, it’s far less than that.I will let you off then.
I work for an extremely large brewery and can go on record and say that in my area, bar 2 pubs, every pub is operating at LFL loss this year post covid.It would have been a godsend if they did it in October or November. Most of my old mates in hospitality said they were already full every day through August and struggling to cope as it was so in the end it was just giving away cash with no discernible benefit.
I think it's a two way system there. The government is always going to shift blame. Politicians are experts at that and definitely aren't experts at medical science. On the other hand people also seem happy to blame the government or use covid for political point scoring, yet pay little or no attention themselves to guidelines or the scientific advice.Agree with you regarding the media. But reality is that the proportion of people doing this will be so low it is a negligible factor. The only people getting tests who dont have symptons is those who have been contacted by track and trace.
It is just another way to blame the public for the government's failure in sorting adequate tests. Unfortunately alot of people fall for that line.
Winter peak was predicted long before eat out to help out. Was going to happen regardless.Not if the 4 week bonanza leads to months of closures.
Like it doesn't happen.What a criminal mind...
Most of the ones I’m referring to work in various restaurants and hotels across Cornwall. They were all full every single day, there wasn’t a single AirBnB, campsite or hotel room that wasn’t fully booked in August.I work for an extremely large brewery and can go on record and say that in my area, bar 2 pubs, every pub is operating at LFL loss this year post covid.
If you're lucky enough to work for a summer venue already then sound you might have been fine, many venues don't have that luxury.
I actually do, I work in a pub along the Thames and we were still busier during eat out to help out than we would have been without.
Your friends must work in some pretty spectacular venues, fair play to them.
Well I suspect that's the case in Cornwall.Most of the ones I’m referring to work in various restaurants and hotels across Cornwall. They were all full every single day, there wasn’t a single AirBnB, campsite or hotel room that wasn’t fully booked in August.
Is it winter. I thought it is the first day of Autumn.Winter peak was predicted long before eat out to help out. Was going to happen regardless.
Right and it was a very similar story in almost every holiday hotspot across the country so why do it at a time when the majority of the country were already on holiday spending money they were going to spend anyway? It doesn’t matter where they were spending it they were always planning to spend it.Well I suspect that's the case in Cornwall.
We've only just started providing certain services again and a lot of people have seen being able to get into the office and see people as a massive relief on their mental health.WFH indefinitely it is then. We just spent about a month deliberating on safety measures to return us to the office
That's what I was hoping we were going to do at my place. The plan was that we could come in 1 day a week (optional) and then 2 days in November. Was/am still hoping it happens to give people a reprieve.We've only just started providing certain services again and a lot of people have seen being able to get into the office and see people as a massive relief on their mental health.
It's really frustrating tbh. I was hoping they'd have a better plan than just giving out the same vague advice that allowed the country to behave like selfish dicks the first time around. Being stuck at home is going to be a lot harder for people in the winter as well. They'll need actual support from the people who find it a luxury and the first time around that was practically non existent when it came to workplaces.
I'm also kind of hoping our workplace will let people come in who feel they need to for their mental health, and generally there'll be more understanding in regards to the at risk people and allowing them to maintain some kind of life. Having people live in misery for a few months for the greater good is one thing. Asking them to do it effectively for the best part of a year means you start to wonder if you're taking more away from people's lives than you're saving.
On the plus side hopefully the roads will quiten down a bit again. Driving has started to revert back to being stressful the last few weeks!
Ahhh. Me too. I just couldn't picture it! Ha!We live up north, in ginnel country. Always another way around!
And what about the venues that aren't in holiday spots that had already been shut for months? feck em?Right and it was a very similar story in almost every holiday hotspot across the country so why do it at a time when the majority of the country were already on holiday spending money they were going to spend anyway? It doesn’t matter where they were spending it they were always planning to spend it.
It would have made more sense to hold it back for a slower period to encourage spending when places are traditionally quiet.
I think it is conjecture to say that people without symptons are getting a significant number of tests.I also doubt very much the proportion would have been a negligible factor. You can guarantee every time a kid in a school falls ill for example (and kids get colds and bugs a LOT), half the parents with kids in that class will be demanding tests regardless of whether their child or anyone in their household has symptoms. You can argue the government should have seen factors like that coming, but they probably did, it's just that expecting the testing capacity to keep up with people's ability to panic was never realistic. Even 500,000 tests a day might not be enough to keep up once cold and flu are fully doing the rounds...I even suspect part of the reason for the restrictions now is they might be hoping it keeps the flu numbers down a bit as well.
The eat out to help out scheme started nearly two months ago.Is it winter. I thought it is the first day of Autumn.
Seriously. The government encouragement for people to go out for a cut price meal sent a signal to many that the risk of socialising was low. And just over 2 weeks later we can see it had an effect by so many flouting the rules.
I have a number of friends who stopped distancing and stopped wearing face coverings after that.