Me dad has been watching out local Mass online for ages. I turned it on last week or of curiosity and was surprised to see people there.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Me dad has been watching out local Mass online for ages. I turned it on last week or of curiosity and was surprised to see people there.
I hear people saying this lockdown is to March but was this actually confirmed by Boris?
Review scheduled for 15th Feb
i've got admit i've had a bit of a rant about the church situation today. One of my colleagues, expressed concern about going out to a job tomorrow due to the lockdown, he has a vulnerable wife and is scared wants to protect her. We all 100% agreed and rearranged everything to make him ensure he and his family are protected as much as possible. Now what has irritated me is also he also helps out in a church looking after the live music side of their events. which involves a level of mingling with musicians and not to mention the congregation, other church workers. He has no plans to stop this during the lockdown and is even taking Thursday afternoon off to organise Sundays service.
For me this feels like having your cake and eating it a bit, its 100% ok if don't feel safe because of the virus and workplaces should support and protect people. Put if people then go swanning off mingling with people because of there religious beliefs that is not ok.
That's a consequence of a proper lock-down - short term loss of business. If kids are expected to bounce back from losing another term of school, I'm sure our manufacturers can bounce back from temporarily shutting down, or going to a skeleton staff, so that people can actually stay at home.
The thing where I live is in the last week the infection rate has gone up by 310% the worst on that American chart was 98%. I know I'm talking a much smaller sample size but there are areas around mine that are significantly higher than mine.? The number in brackets is cases per 100K isn’t it? So 600-800. Which incidentally is less than here in Londonfeck sakes.
Comparing the loss of business to a curriculum catch up is naive. Business demand just moves elsewhere. It's a difficult thing to balance, but some tax revenue needs to be coming into the exchequer. The discussion should be around safe working environments rather than wholesale furlough because it's too difficult to adapt.
Mr Gove said: “We can’t predict with certainty that we’ll be able to lift restrictions the week commencing February 15 to 22.
“What we will be doing is everything we can to make sure that as many people as possible are vaccinated so that we can begin progressively to lift restrictions.
“I think it’s right to say that, as we enter March, we should be able to lift some of these restrictions – but not necessarily all.”
USA are looking at halving the Moderna dosage now as well.
Great to see, I'm not so close to Denmark admittedly, but is it down to public confidence, or geographical footprint (in terms of distribution)?
They are running out of glass containers to put the vaccine in? That's a new one
It was widely reported in the middle of last year that it would be an issue - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ge-for-covid-vaccines-prompts-flurry-of-deals
We know that there have been outbreaks in multiple factories - mainly, but not exclusively, food processing plants making essential things like Haribo, Tunnocks Tea Cakes and KP nuts. If a 6 week drop in production is going to put them out of business, there's something more wrong with their product.
That's a bit naive I feel as business doesn't bounce back that quickly. It's a really fine line to get the balance right otherwise the effects will be worse.
Also manufacturing has already decreased staff from what I'm told (family member). I was also told that there's a lot of rigour in keeping safe apart and using PPE, which surprised me if I'm being honest. Though this will be dependent on the business as I've also been told the exact opposite by others.
I'm guessing you've never dealt with a supermarket then? A 6 week break in production, even for the mere old Tea Cake, carries huge penalties.
I have zero sympathy for people like that
It's weird, I'm sure I've heard this line before from paediatricians and child development specialists.
No idea. Presumably a bit of both? As well as excellent project management.
So NHS vaccination seems to be springing into life outside of just the hospitals, my other half has had three band 5 staff pulled from her team today (they are community based) so they can be redeployed for vaccinations for the foreseeable.
Criminally underrated in these types of programmes.
No church should be having musicians and singing. It's absolutely not necessary at this time, but I know it's a big feature in some of the evangelical churches. You can easily have just a half-hour service or even shorter, the priests are managing it every Sunday.
So I think he won't close flights like Scotland but will introduce checks at airports.
Wow.
60k cases announced today, with 830 deaths!
Surely the case numbers will flatten by the end of the week?
60k cases announced today, with 830 deaths!
Surely the case numbers will flatten by the end of the week?
Why the end of the week?
I would imagine it would take until next week. People were less likely to get tested during holidays and further restrictions are only starting to have an effect from now.
Horrible stats. Feels like it’s going to be like this until next week before we may get to see numbers falling 
It's been 2.5 weeks since London/S.E went into lockdown, and schools had the Xmas holidays so you would hope that transmission had the breaks put on it
It will keep rising until the 2nd/3rd week in January. I'm expecting similar case numbers to what we had back in March (around c100k per day).
I doubt you are catching over 50% of the cases so in reality you are already over 100k.
ONS are reporting that 1 in 50 households people in the UK had covid between 27th Dec and 2nd Jan. Up by 300k from the week before, where it was 1 in 70.
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This is just a yeah we gave you bad news yesterday so I want to give out good news today. A PR stunt.
These slides just show how out of control the government have allowed it to get.
Boris waffling
The sad thing is that you can see from the graphs they are showing that it was clearly going to get worse if they didn't intervene and yet they did nothing during the majority of December
Anyone asked why he sent children to school only to shut them yet?
Just now.
Christ it reads bad when you put it like that.
I'm fairly sure my missus and i have it at moment. She's got a negative today but catching something during one visit to a supermarket in a covid hotspot seems more likely that its a false negative than a different illness.
Listened to all this Boris presser and i can't think he's said anything of worth.
Yeah and got waffle in response.
“Alas, flubble bubble, errr schools errr and important to errr should stay open but waffle toffle the new lockdown is err thank you I hope that answers your question. Yes, Laura next please“
When you think how daft a decision that was it's mind blowing. Having an unnecessary mass household mixing event just before a need for full on lockdown. How many spreader events were caused.
It’s like being waterboarded with fecking raw sewage. So much shit it’s unbearable