I would be shocked if mortality of coronavirus isn’t at least 50 times higher than H1N1 when it all ends (if it ends).
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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@barros when was the last time you saw a country lock down 16 million in a single city? When was the last time you saw a country lose control of hospitalizations. Examples please. You best get back on Fox, they are updating their thinking, finally.
232 new UK cases and 14 more deaths, as of 09:00 this morning.
35 deaths in the UK.
Maybe this will eventually be like the flu in a few years time. I don't doubt it. But we've had years of practice dealing with the flu and have vaccines/cures for it to protect the most vulnerable. For example, I don't take flu jabs as I know I'll survive it but I know my dad does as he is 60+.
The issue is the now. There is no vaccine/cure for Covid so it is overwhelming health systems with it's immediate impact. In fact, I'd say if you were 70+ and had a bad flu pneumonia in Northern Italy right now, I'd say you'd be pretty fecked. Whereas if you had it last year, chances are you would have been alright.
If you're just gonna say, 'well people die anyway what's the big deal?' then we may as well just disband the NHS and let nature decide it all.
Why bother saving cancer patients? Why bother saving heart attack patients? Why bother giving insulin to diabetic patients? People die anyway.
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Most of the bars in Derry are closing tonight for the foreseeable future.
My sister is a health visitor hasn't nursed in a hospital in years but has been told she and others will be required to go in probably week after next when it is expected to hit big time .
Also calling up retired health workers . There is a lot happening behind the scenes . I expect a lot of places like libraries , halls etc to be fitted out to take care of people.
This is going to be a very bumpy ride
My sister is a health visitor hasn't nursed in a hospital in years but has been told she and others will be required to go in probably week after next when it is expected to hit big time .
Also calling up retired health workers . There is a lot happening behind the scenes . I expect a lot of places like libraries , halls etc to be fitted out to take care of people.
This is going to be a very bumpy ride
There is probably the stats for both the flu and Covid somewhere but it's worth mentioning that the issue is the amount of people requiring access to ICU, these people survive/survived because they were in ICU and the more people get infected the more people won't have access to ICU.
Heading to the local pub. Hopefully this virus has made things nice and quiet so I can have a relaxing pint
Just back from lunch with my parents, my bro and his girlfriend who is a nurse - she is being retrained very quickly as an ICU nurse tomorrow and will be straight into ICU this week. Was fecking awful saying goodbye to my parents as they have decided to self-isolate for forseeable future and it will be months till I see them again.
Thankfully the internet is still available, can you imagine if that infrastructure was down as well?
This guy has no idea about lag. If you try and stop it when the bottle is full the lag in the system will cause the bottle to overflow.
The other problem is that the causes don't flow at a consistent rate everyday that it goes uncontrolled it speeds up at a vast rate. We could go from 1300 confirmed cases to 5000 in a couple or 3 of days by then our capacity of ventilators could be overwhelmed as we only have 5000 ventilators and you can bet your bottom dollar that that most of those 5000 are already in use.
Its just a simple analogy to get the basic idea across. Every analogy has flaws, but this isn't meant to be some groundbreaking way of thinking either...
Apparently the virus can just wait on certain objects up to 3 days...
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I don't know how my dad will cope with a four months lockdown. He moans if he has to stay in for one day .
It's gonna be mental . Just hope in 6 monthes time we are all here arguing over who was the best Batman or something
Most pubs closing in Ireland today/tonight as a lot of shops/restaurants are going to close down aswell
Wow Spain has nearly doubled in deaths in the last 24 hours
That’s probably right, there is a lot of people in there 30s living at there parents home with there children, primarily brought on by the cost and lack of housing as well as the renting costs.
Did anyone see this ? Trending on reddit right now.
And there's this comment from a redditor giving more details on what's happening with this company.
Yeah, it's a pretty shitty thing to do and fair play to the German CEO.
I was about to say. Where the feck is Batman when you need him.
Has anybody heard any news about Macedonia and cases?
I do like to overly worry, so what's to stop, e.g. China from deciding the best thing to contain the virus is to eliminate it from outside China?
Same could be said for the swine flu though.
We've got Spiderman, (Boris); Not all heroes wear capes or something.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
This updates every minute of the day country by country it doesn’t have Macedonia so I presume they have none
Is it the small shops? They have to keep some shops open.
Doesn’t matter same was for swine flu my mother got it and didn’t go hospital so she wasn’t counted etc. Also Covid-19 is currently at a much higher mortality rate
SAS cutting down (temp) 90% of their staff as a result of this.
Why would we? Everybody knows it’s George Clooney.
Yes small shops I do online shopping for Tesco we will remain open through this whole thing unless there is a serious outbreak.
Last year in Italy 240 people died from seasonal flu. In the last month 1500 died from the coronavirus. By the end of this the number will be several orders of magnitude different.
Exactly more people had the flu aswell only 21,500 people have corona virus in Italy and 1500 have died the rate in Italy is nearly 6% which is extreme
Its official name is North Macedonia (I think it changed it in the last year or so)- it has 19 total, 18 active and 1 recovered (no new case so far today). @Grinner
Now I see it was looking at M. Not too bad but Ireland has no new cases today as we don’t update til later in the day so they might have a few
Surprised to see Germany close the borders after Merkel and the EU were against it.
Schools in the Netherlands are closed as of tomorrow, along with all cafes and restaurants until April 06.
Econemy Econemy econemy!!!
I'm fed up of people giving a feck about the econemy!! When my parents are likely fighting for their life does anyone thinking I will be caring about the econemy.
Honestly we can rebuild as a nation once this is over, people worrying about money and the long term effects. If this wipes out a quarter of a million we will be regretting not locking down, shutting up shop and letting this thing pass.
The Government should be looking at ways of holding rental and energy costs. Put bills on hold for 6 months, give everyone a living allowance, ration off food if we have to.
Surely lives are worth more than making sure we come out of this in a stable financial position.
I'm fed up of people giving a feck about the econemy!! When my parents are likely fighting for their life does anyone thinking I will be caring about the econemy.
Honestly we can rebuild as a nation once this is over, people worrying about money and the long term effects. If this wipes out a quarter of a million we will be regretting not locking down, shutting up shop and letting this thing pass.
The Government should be looking at ways of holding rental and energy costs. Put bills on hold for 6 months, give everyone a living allowance, ration off food if we have to.
Surely lives are worth more than making sure we come out of this in a stable financial position.
Regarding testing, if it’s the method that is most effective why are so few countries doing it in anywhere near the South Korean level, is it simply a lack of resources?
It’ll always be Abed, followed by Lego.