I’m not sure there is anything like enough reliable data to say how long immunity lasts for this virus just yet. It might be the few reported cases of relapse are due to error, or are within expected bounds. We don’t know yet.
It doesn't work like that.
Germany doesn't have a city like London or Paris.
Yes of course, lots to learn still!
Are they still looking like 12-18 months away? (haven't read the article)
I'm very worried about having a vaccine that has taken a year to be fast tracked through trials. Some are even suggesting a vaccine in Autumn this year, not nearly enough time to study its effects surely?
A vaccine in autumn could well be catastrophic. You're right that human trials need significantly longer to assess side effects.
I wouldn't believe 100% what anyone says these days. Damn if they did and damn if they didn't. Can you imagine the furor if the papers show something else and if the reality is another?
Yeah man. As is common in life, the poorest of the poor will be hardest hit - either by the virus (which is why we’ve acted so “early and decisively” to try and protect them) or ironically, if not by the virus, they will also feel it economically if things don’t open up. Of course there’s also a much broader range and variety of people impacted. No denying that. But it’s a feck up, either way.
Age, size of major cities, size of country, tourist cities, timing of tests, age of people tested, health service, timing of decisions.
I'm talking about the people that actually have the virus, if you get it you have a 1 in 5 chance of not making it.
What we are seeing now is pragmatism. The most incredible piece of pragmatism I’ve ever witnessed in my lifetime. Closing down the economy virtually in the whole developed world is unreal. Unsustainable yes but at this moment in time almost every government across the northern hemisphere has done exactly the same. Worldwide pragmatism going on right in front of our eyes.
There's three factors to consider for the economic impact: the depth of the economic pause, the length of the economic pause, and the shape of the recovery. The experts don't really have a clue about the latter, but there's some early signs in China that suggest it could be very quick recovery. Obviously the unprecedented economic policies taken by so many governments are aimed at making it that "v-shaped recovery". In which case the depths we're reaching right now aren't very indicative of the levels we'll return to post-pandemic.
Undoubtedly the impacts of lockdowns will be unevenly spread, across countries and within countries, depending on the nature of the work and the policies designed for them. Every country will need to make some terrible decisions and in the worst-hit areas, I think there's a big danger of social unrest regardless of which route they take. A lot of people won't sit quietly while lives are lost to save jobs. In the UK there's a clear consensus that saving every life matters more than protecting the economy, but obviously context matters a lot. The UK is able to do both quite well for now. For those relying on day-to-day jobs, a non-existent physical economy without economic protection from the government is life-and-death if it goes on long enough.
No, because then I’ll have people in my extended family saying shit like “I’m not 51 I’m doing fifty again” and thinking they’re hilarious.Here's a crazy idea - why don't we just stop the clocks for a year? No mortgages, no rent, no debit orders, no nothing! Then next year is 2020 again and we're all one year older in reality
All affluent, like-minded individuals know this won't work.
To get the percentage you're looking for you would have to add to your recovered figure all those that have had the virus but never been tested. Many who have caught it will never have been tested because they haven't been ill enough to have been hospitalised, they will have recovered on their own. Indeed it looks like many that catch it have symptoms so minor they don't even know.
No, no.
Well, at least my 2020 diary would serve some purpose.
Such a warrior! Would have been on the beaches of Dunkirk if he was born a different time.
Try washing them with soapy water and then drying with a fine cloth. Works on my scuba mask anyway.
Exactly. I expect the levels of fear and misery on the Caf to drop significantly nowSuch a warrior! Would have been on the beaches of Dunkirk if he was born a different time.
It's simple, we are a terrible nation for looking after our own health, ridiculous amounts of obese people for a start.
I doubt it develops into anything we don't already know. The last paragraph is an insight into what they are trying to do I think:
Trump talks shit about China, China creates fake news about CIA, Boris says there will reckoning for China, China laughs at Boris...
I imagine the figures are slightly different now, but according to the EU's statistical office Germany has more smokers, more drinkers (and binge drinkers) and fewer obese people. Taken altogether, Germany are more or less on par with the UK, and the UK aren't particularly exceptional in any sense.
The same planet where Miliband said it was shocking how many people were having to use food banks and Cameron's response was "how dare you insult the good people who run food banks". They're deflectionist wankers of the highest kind.
A YouGov poll is hardly a 'clear consensus'.
Trump didn't talk shit about China until that clown in the Chinese foreign ministry started leaking false news that the US army brought the virus over to them in October. In fact he was publicly praising Xi Jinping as late as March as he didn't want to piss them off ahead of a trade deal he sees as key to his re-election.
We're thick as shit though. I'm still reading news articles with quotes from the public like "I'm still unsure whether I can walk past someone in a park, the government should clarify". Presumably these same people need government videos explaining how to wipe their arse.
To be fair, Boris has already had his own disgraceful-retreat-from-Europe-but-treated-like-a-win-for-propaganda moment.Such a warrior! Would have been on the beaches of Dunkirk if he was born a different time.
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