Video won't load for me, so he might well be high, but my missus is a biomedical scientist and her and apparently all the staff in her lab reckon that masks are a waste of time. They don't provide a seal around the mouth, and even if they did you'd need to be clean shaven for them to be properly air tight.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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You can’t expect people to stick to these rules indefinitely, especially kids, and the Government should have known this from the outset. I think people are generally reaching their limits around now. If football returns to the UK that will be the final nail in the coffin for social distancing.
Ex-smokers are older and smoked for a longer period than current smokers would be Occam’s razor surely.
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Fauci says no reason for people to be walking around with a mask and people will fiddle with it and touch their face. When you think masks think healthcare providers and ill people.
Saw a cyclist today wearing one while very hot weather. Don't think it's a good idea for anyone exercising to wear one, could restrict your breathing. Some Chinese students collapsed and died during exercise at school wearing a mask.
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Yep. As per NHS stats from 2018, adults aged between 25-34 were most likely to be current smokers (20%) while those aged over 65 were least likely (8%). Logically a large portion of that 65+ age group are former smokers rather than people who never smoked.
The police in Holland Park have handled it well the last two days- they just came at 5:30pm with megaphones to clear the park when everyone was all but done anyway.
They get their little vid for twitter and everyone had a nice day in the sun. Win-win.
Absolutely nothing has surprised me during this entire panedmic. South Korea heralded as one of the better countries dealing with it, opened up bars and clubs and now 1 guy has been linked to 17 of the new cases and all those places are shut down for another month. Belarus just completely ignoring it as their numbers start to look ominous. I would be very confident that a high majority of people flouting lockdown rules also text whilst driving, its the old "ah but it wont happen to me" mentality. Every single piece of statistical evidence says that this virus isn't going to disappear yet the world continues to operate as if it will be able to just go back to normal. This planet is absolutely beautiful when it's still, and we have collectively proved that we don't deserve it to the extent that if there was a button I could press that would just end humanity and civilization peacefully, i'd seriously consider pushing it.
I would say it is off topic, there is a separate thread for working from home.
It's not about complete sealing. It's the same principle as social distancing. You want to reduce the viral load people are exposed to.
0.2% fatality rate for that group is nonsense though. It assumes that every infected case was documented which is totally false (especially in the UK when the testing was sparse until a week ago). Many researchers are estimating the true fatality rate to 0.4% or so (on the entire population) which essentially lowers by a magnitude the fatality rate for that group age you mentioned. So maybe, we would be talking for a couple thousand deaths in that group age.
Of course, in the entire population is another thing and it would have been surely in hundreds of thousands.
Labs are quite away from the real world at times.
Wearing masks, even tissue ones, will probably be proven to be one of the most useful community measures, as it blocks respiratory respiratory droples. The goal is not to protect the wearer, but the community as a whole, and it's effectiveness increases the more people that use it. Look at it as physically imposed respiratory etiquette.
It's a bit like those lab studies showing the vídeo survives "x days" in whatever surface. In practice, this vírus seems to only be transmitted from person-to-person through respiratory droplets, not by surfaces - unless, obviously, you touch a recently dropped respiratory droplet and then touch a mucous membrane, hence why some often used surfaces like ATMs or public bathrooms may pose some risk. Stuff like deliveries or even take-away food do not seem to be a source of transmission at all. The survival of a vírus in a controlled environment means very little about it's ability to actually cause infection.
Just reading the Grant Schapps nonsense encouraging us to walk or cycle to work. It's naive at best- bet that prick wouldn't risk his life cycling near Victoria.
Well done to the Faroe Islands. All cases ended, no new cases since 23rd April. 187 infected, 187 recovered. A perfect score.
More people want a car now after the lockdown as they don't feel safe on a bus or train and it's perfectly logical.
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what else do you suggest?
Personally I think motorbike or moped with proper helmet and visor is the best compromise for right now
And what's the betting that the vast majority of the people ignoring the government lockdown rules are the same people clapping proudly for the NHS every Thursday...
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Looking at the hazard ratios graph, age stands out, in a good way - children are so much less likely they're literally off the scale. Surely there must be research on what makes them different. Is it just a more active metabolic process? Ageing is bad in the context of most diseases but surely this gap isn't normal.
Looking at the hazard ratios graph, age stands out, in a good way - children are so much less likely they're literally off the scale. Surely there must be research on what makes them different. Is it just a more active metabolic process? Ageing is bad in the context of most diseases but surely this gap isn't normal.
If you listened to the whole briefing, you would have heard him saying that millions of pounds are being allocated to local councils to assist in making cycling and walking safer.
Sky News' Alex Crawford visits ICU wards, temples and homes in this in-depth documentary that examines the devastating effects of the new coronavirus across the UK's communities.
I’d say there’s loads of research going on. It’s just we’re working to crazy shortened timeframes. All will become clear in time. This gap definitely isn’t normal. Most viral epidemics (e.g. swine flu) have a U shaped mortality curve. As deadly to the developing immune system as it is to one that is fading.
The best theory I’ve heard is that kids somehow have a more active IgA/cell mediated immunity, which blitzes the virus en route through mucus membranes. So kids can fight off infection without the IgG/IgM response that is tested for in serological surveys.
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That's great stuff. Containment seems very easy in small islands. Here in Azores (4x the population) we have 144 cases and no new cases for a while, but our mortality is terrible at 15 deaths. 11 are from the same nursing home.
Same. Literally no logic on that decision. If they wanted to do this it should have been done months ago. Why choose now exactly?
Who's mentioned indefinitely? I fully expect them to quote stick to the rules unquote until the rules tell them otherwise. Otherwise they might as well stab a few nurses they see coming home after another draining shift.
That would give credence to the idea this pandemic isn’t necessarily a win for the environment in the long term, despite the clearer skies we have currently.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52587368
Lockdown was always going to be a big ask in the UK. And if we extrapolate from this, it's likely that subsequent lockdowns will be adhered to even less.
Basically, the R0 of 0.9 we have at the moment could well be the lowest it gets until herd immunity is within reach.
I thought this was interesting.
Lockdown was always going to be a big ask in the UK. And if we extrapolate from this, it's likely that subsequent lockdowns will be adhered to even less.
Basically, the R0 of 0.9 we have at the moment could well be the lowest it gets until herd immunity is within reach.
More for-the-sake-of-it government bashing?
Sammsky on his moped, we need pictures.
Sammsky on his moped, we need pictures.
Didn't say I was going to try one ... don't even know how to!Might have to learn quickly, but apparently if you can ride a bike and drive a car, ;earring to ride one safely is very easy?
what a refreshing piece of news to hear
Belarus: The Country Where They Didn't Lockdown!
The whole world is taking precautions, keeping people safely inside, practicing social distancing, right? Well no...In Belarus they do things differently. Bars and restaurants are open, few wear face masks outside and today they had a big celebration with crowds. So I went to take a look...Join me in the country that does things its own way.
The whole world is taking precautions, keeping people safely inside, practicing social distancing, right? Well no...In Belarus they do things differently. Bars and restaurants are open, few wear face masks outside and today they had a big celebration with crowds. So I went to take a look...Join me in the country that does things its own way.
Bald and Bankrupt is a mad lad, he has zero fear. He smuggled a cat from Cuba back to Europe.
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Ah I love this guy! I’d say I’ve seen all his stuff by now.
Well, those imminent 'game-changer' covid home-testing kits that the government has briefed the press on at least three times, only for them to fail and be quietly forgotten, would've been a start.
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Absolute bellends, in Wimbledon too what the feck.
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This seems to be a weekly thing now in Germany. Mass demonstrations in many big cities against the restrictions imposed by the government. Stuttgart once again saw the biggest one. Organisers wanted permission for 50,000 people, 10,000 were allowed. The right to protest is important but that really seems excessive if not crazy.
Sadly UK would never be disciplined or ingenious enough to implement such. But we’ve got BrExit and freedom so we’ll be OK, right?
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Yeah, Ive been watching his VDOs for a long time. His India series was amazing, esp the swim in the lake avoiding security guards
He is mad, bad and wonderful.