Good to read.89 and 65 is fairly low for Tue/Wed
Good to read.89 and 65 is fairly low for Tue/Wed
The difference is strict lockdown measures. Trump has largely ignored the virus up until the last few weeks.I just cannot believe the number of deaths in China compared to other countries. How on earth can it kill over 150k in the USA and only 4K in China where it must have been transmitted for months before the virus was identified.
Yeah the did a harsh lockdown but an unknown new virus circulating around a population of 1.4billion for months just doesn’t add up to me.The difference is strict lockdown measures. Trump has largely ignored the virus up until the last few weeks.
China is a big country, but they managed to contain the outbreak to Hubei through a strict 76 day lockdown and enforced a travel ban in Wuhan. The data provided shows that 97% of deaths and 82% of cases was contained within Hubei. With the lockdown, it bought other regions of China time to get their own measures in place. They also have previous experience in dealing with pandemics. The way to deal with these is largely isolation or vaccine.Yeah the did a harsh lockdown but an unknown new virus circulating around a population of 1.4billion for months just doesn’t add up to me.
China is a big country, but they managed to contain the outbreak to Hubei through a strict 76 day lockdown and enforced a travel ban in Wuhan. The data provided shows that 97% of deaths and 82% of cases was contained within Hubei. With the lockdown, it bought other regions of China time to get their own measures in place. They also have previous experience in dealing with pandemics. The way to deal with these is largely isolation or vaccine.
Compare that to the USA, and it's clear why the reported numbers are so vastly different.
I don't disagree in that there is some issues in their reporting figures overall, but the trends in their death & case rate are very different to the USA (The USA's is different to everyone which should give you some indication). The measures they took to control it are very stark to that of the USA, and easy to see why the figures are different.Yeah maybe you are right but Wuhan isn't some small hamlet in the middle of the sticks, it has a population of 10 million. With a new virus circulating around there for god knows how long it just seems to me the Chinese are fudging their numbers. They seemed to stop it moving to other parts of China but fecked every other country.
I would take it with a pinch of salt (we've seen how the Boris has cooked the numbers here), however I don't think their death rate is as bad as USAs or even the UK's for that matter just on the basis of the action they took.do people actually think China's (apparent) low death rates are really believable?
China telling the truth like?
id agree with that but in general I think the stats and numbers we have seen are just logical estimates.I would take it with a pinch of salt (we've seen how the Boris has cooked the numbers here), however I don't think their death rate is as bad as USAs or even the UK's for that matter just on the basis of the action they took.
Not a snowballs chance in hell.do people actually think China's (apparent) low death rates are really believable?
China telling the truth like?
No negligence or corruption here...
Coronavirus: Safety concerns halt use of 50 million NHS masks
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53672841
It also emerged that the person who originally approached the government about the deal was a government trade adviser who also advises the board of Ayanda.
But he told the BBC his position played no part in the awarding of the contract.
Of course not. It is all about propaganda to make the various governments look like they have it under control.do people actually think China's (apparent) low death rates are really believable?
China telling the truth like?
The 892 new cases is certainly not good news as it is showing an increase from a previous average of just under 600.UK deaths 65 and 892 cases
89 and 65 is fairly low for Tue/Wed
This should be the headline story in all the papers. Absolutely shocking. An advisor to Liz Truss apparently getting a contract worth over £200m for a company with absolutely no background or filings. And then all the product delivered not being able to be used. Utterly shameful and corrupt.More detail here from the original investigation here, no surprises that the BBC have focused on the wrong elements of this story
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They're all increases within current hotspots, which would suggest increased testing in the community. Hospital admissions are down, which is the important metric with an increase in cases.The 892 new cases is certainly not good news as it is showing an increase from a previous average of just under 600.
Unbelievable. Public service procurement has always been f*cked and heavily influenced by politicians, and this pandemic has only highlighted further the need for reform.More detail here from the original investigation here, no surprises that the BBC have focused on the wrong elements of this story
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Furthermore Imperial London are randomly inviting people to test to get a rough idea on local numbers.They're all increases within current hotspots, which would suggest increased testing in the community. Hospital admissions are down, which is the important metric with an increase in cases.
Aye, more testing = more positives, but a lower %age of positives in those tested than before.They're all increases within current hotspots, which would suggest increased testing in the community. Hospital admissions are down, which is the important metric with an increase in cases.
I just came here to post that. There's only so much that can be pinned on pandemic panic or sheer incompetence. That's pure misappropriation of funds and people should go down for it.More detail here from the original investigation here, no surprises that the BBC have focused on the wrong elements of this story
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Wait, so this actually happend, but no british media are reporting on it?Scandalous, this should be all over the headlines.
Yes, it is https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ce-masks-bought-government-cannot-be-used-nhsWait, so this actually happend, but no british media are reporting on it?
Majority, if not all, are reporting on this.Wait, so this actually happend, but no british media are reporting on it?
Majority, if not all, are reporting on this.
Ah good.
They've been convinved by the old proverb that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". The common enemy in this instance being immigrants, benefits scroungers and other leftie abberations. Of course the sad reality is they couldn't give a toss about any of that because it registers barely a ripple in the water to them.The Tory party basically exist solely to maintain the wealth and power of themselves and the already privileged. They will continue to be corrupt and funnel taxes to their mates in the guise of public expenditure and nobody will hold them to account because the media, by and large, are part of the same cesspit.
How anybody working class could look at them and think for one second that they might act in their best interests will never cease to baffle me.
"It has emerged that the person who originally approached the government about the deal was a government trade adviser who also advises the board of Ayanda.No negligence or corruption here...
Coronavirus: Safety concerns halt use of 50 million NHS masks
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53672841
NoHave we seen the last of this now ? Is it all over? The house next door to me is a holiday home and there is 10 people in it from 3 households (Canvey Island , Birmingham and Sheffield) , I was chatting over the fence yesterday .
There is a retired couple just moved into the house the other side of me , ex military , been there just over a week now and had a constant stream of visitors in the house .
My family are still social distancing and don`t have anyone in the house . When I visit my in laws we do it outside as they are in their 80`s with other ongoing illnesses . Are we wasting our time as no one else seems to be bothering and everything seems ok . When I go in a shop very few people are wearing masks and don`t seem to care. I honestly don`t know what to think anymore.
Other people in 'selfish dicks' shocker.Have we seen the last of this now ? Is it all over? The house next door to me is a holiday home and there is 10 people in it from 3 households (Canvey Island , Birmingham and Sheffield) , I was chatting over the fence yesterday .
There is a retired couple just moved into the house the other side of me , ex military , been there just over a week now and had a constant stream of visitors in the house .
My family are still social distancing and don`t have anyone in the house . When I visit my in laws we do it outside as they are in their 80`s with other ongoing illnesses . Are we wasting our time as no one else seems to be bothering and everything seems ok . When I go in a shop very few people are wearing masks and don`t seem to care. I honestly don`t know what to think anymore.