The Glazers are backers of Donald Trump so its safe to say they dont have any issues with his actions.
Saudi sports minister gives update on buying club from Glazers
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Or you are just a knobend?
Am I talking about a imaginary scenario about a guy who's been dead for about 80 years?
My point exactly, thank you.
May I add how Trump supported MBS about Jamal Khashoggi.
Here, I'll make it easy for you. Read the bold part
I just said about infos about the connections like fundraisers, support presidential campaign through donations and such.
Even added a second line to make it clearer.
Why is this thread alive again. Did something happen that I missed?
Yeah, there's been nothing to this for ages. All it is is the same old rubbish repeated ad-infinitum. Can we close it?
Just people debating the same old hypotheticals over and over again. Not much to see.
I agree. The UK acts as America's wagging tail when it comes to foreign policy.
The Glazers, aren't good people (I think most billionaires aren't, they get to where they are by screwing people over}. They can't be compared to the Saudi royals who are multiple levels worse. However I do wonder why some Americans fail to see their own governments role in the support of people like the Saudis and others.
This approach to foreign policy is why people hate the American governments. Audiences which Hollywood has won over with the portrayal of the American dream, still hate the govt and their policies because of their impact on them.
I personally would prefer less evil billionaire owners, but I'd the Saudis were in charge I wouldn't be bothered as long as they were playing fantasy football.
Does that make me a bad person? Maybe, more than likely even - or at the least it's a bad choice. I prefer to see myself as a pragmatist. The Saudis aren't going anywhere, they're squandering the rights of the Saudi people anyway - might as well chuck a few billion our way.
How embarrassing...
Of course the welfare of our football team is of such paramount importance that it overrides the human rights of thousands of ordinary people.
Doesn’t make you a bad person just sadly an indifferent one.
If only people had shown the same solidarity towards the South African apartheid system then maybe they would have changed......
This is the thing though - nobody is sanctioning Saudi. in fact BDS tried to boycott Israel for their genocide of the Palestinians and the British and American governments have started working against the group.
I would like to see us get bought but I would not want us to be bought by the Saudis.
But can someone suggest anyone who
A) Has the money to be able to afford to buy us
B) Would be would be willing part with that many billions and
C) Doesn't have a dodgy background please?
I can't think of any individual/organisation who fits all these categories or would it be better for them to sell off large chunks to various individuals/organisations? It looks like we are going to be stuck with the Glazers until they decide they feel it is the right time to pull out.
But can someone suggest anyone who
A) Has the money to be able to afford to buy us
B) Would be would be willing part with that many billions and
C) Doesn't have a dodgy background please?
I can't think of any individual/organisation who fits all these categories or would it be better for them to sell off large chunks to various individuals/organisations? It looks like we are going to be stuck with the Glazers until they decide they feel it is the right time to pull out.
Warren Buffet?
Berkshire Hathaway owned?
He certainly has the cash. But do you think he would want to make an investment like this at his age? Maybe he would want to pass the on to his children one day.
Crude contract down almost 11% today. I think they're in big big trouble.
I'm by no means a Saudi apologist. I'm just saying the US are just as bad just in different ways. They're in no position to take any moral high ground over any oppressive regime.
It was hardly the debate in question. Some here equated the Glazers with The Saudis. It’s rubbish and you know it.
If you want to compare the two administrations then that’s the subject of a different debate.
For the record, whether you like it or not The US is still a democracy.
Saudi Arabia isn’t.
Yeah a democracy built on corporate power-broking and full of corruption. So yeah, swings and roundabouts. You was the one putting the US on a pedestal, but yeah equating the Glazers with the Saudis is a bit dumb.
You're going to be seriously limited in the transfer market though.
Yes, unfortunately, due to human nature corruption is everywhere but the big difference between many democracies such as the USA/UK and many dictatorships such as House of Saud, is that in democracies the corrupt leaders can be held to account, leaders can be voted out of office, leaders serve the people instead of the people serving the leaders. No government is perfect, far from it, but you have to ask which is the least bad.
You see @RedPed the fundamental difference is that I can criticise my leaders on this forum and protest against them outside the houses of parliament without fear of being imprisoned or executed.
The number one responsibilty of a democratic government is to protect the people it governs which in some cases means it has to make foreign policy choices and do bad things and the choices are not always correct. BUT this is considerably less bad than a government that imprisons and executes its own innocent citizens for protesting, sexual preference,oppresses 50% of the population for being female and is unaccountable to its citizens.
Atleast our players will be dying for the team (literally)
Without derailing too much, I'm not up on the demographic but it's just that the Saudis do not have many black citizens? I don't see any difference with a government that enables the state sponsored oppression of minorities where the police can regularly hide behind a badge and use young black males for target practice and where innocent citizens are frequently imprisoned, kids regularly getting mown down in schools, minorities getting marginalised etc., etc. They're not even doing it in secret anymore and seem to be getting more brazen. And as for corrupt leaders being held to account. Well, the GOP certainly put that one to bed didn't they.
This thread title needs changing to “random baseless speculation about ownership” or something, there’s been no actual comments or anything close to an “update” from anybody connected to Saudi for absolutely ages, it even ever.
Why were previous threads on this topic rightly closed (because there’s no actual news) and this one stays open? It’s worse than fake ITKs during transfer windows.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/us/springfield-police-black-men-fight-lawsuit.html
This is the diiference!
Yes there are good and bad people everywhere, there are racist people everywhere but the difference is that in the likes of the USA it is illegal and attempts will be made to prosecute if it can be proven.
As for the GOP, the people can choose to vote them out in the next election if they the majority feel that they are too corrupt! In Saudi the people don’t have this option
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Come on now! You really think you should be using this as an example of how great things are? FOURTEEN officers indicted on assault and cover-up charges?? Should never have even happened in the first fecking place. And you know prosecutions don't always occur. Absolutely missing the point! For every 1 charged there's probably another 10 just doing their thing. Anyway, moving on.
I think we would have signed Eerling Haaland though. There's an aryan if i've ever seen one.
Idiots is being far to nice to them. I would immediately go to ignore. I want nothing to do with them. We cannot call City cheaters and plastics and carry on like that. We need Manchester United supporters not wan*ers, please.
Fair point, poster
Hear hear
Good point.
People who turns a blind eye to governments who murders people, cause of no freedom of speech and no basic human rights because they want money from the cnuts. Are the biggest reason why this planet is fecked.
Strategic ineptitude is actually fairly similar. Can it be someone evil and competent?
The Saudis would not need to cheat to circumvent FFP and we’ve had plastic fans in the millions for quite a while now. Problem solved.
Governments that murder outside of their own borders for oil are better?
Not much better.
But atleast America have basic human rights and women have rights period.
America have done some fecked up things for oil, but Saudis take the cake.
By sheer number of innocent people killed they put the Saudis to shame it’s not even close. You should also look into how Saudi Arabia came to be in the first place.