We will need a hell of an injury crisis for the trio I mentioned to get a chance though.Anyway I hope that means they will go on loan early.The "left foot thingy" caused no problems for McNair.
We will need a hell of an injury crisis for the trio I mentioned to get a chance though.Anyway I hope that means they will go on loan early.The "left foot thingy" caused no problems for McNair.
If they're good enough they'll get their chance, eventually. If not, they won't.We will need a hell of an injury crisis for the trio I mentioned to get a chance though.Anyway I hope that means they will go on loan early.
LvG has some odd quirks in his gallop.He promised to bring a lot more youngsters but never mind.Actually the rest were told that they are not up to his mark.Would be curious myself to see what's the criteria that Sean has but the rest don't.Hopefully not the left foot thingy again.
If that makes you feel confident then so it be.Not the first time that LVG made a weird decision and most of them didn't come off.I don't think any of them are the talents that we have to get into the first team at all cost (i.e "special talents") but this has Blackett written all over again (except for Goss being a better talent).People at Carrington I know are pretty confused by the decision as well.I hope LVG will be proven right but I only trust what I see.If they're good enough they'll get their chance, eventually. If not, they won't.
I think you're looking for issues which aren't there. Like I said, the coaches will have a far better handle on who is/isn't first team quality than any of us and Van Gaal will be listening to their opinions on all of our younger players. It seems crazy to conclude that a manager with his track record of youth development is making hasty, poorly thought out decisions about any of our youngsters.
I just think there's a certain breed of fan who get far too emotionally invested in reserve/underage players when the harsh reality is that almost none of them will make it anywhere near good enough for first team. I used to be a bit like that myself. I remember being gutted when we cut David Jones loose. I personally doubt Blackett will have a long career at United, nor do I think the players his presence has squeezed out will be missed. For whatever reason, he was given a bit more of a chance than other, highly rated kids and chances are that decision was better informed than any you'd read on here (or in whatever twitter chat goes on about the same subject) I'm sure the decision to bring Goss along on tour was similarly rational, whether or not that rationale is obvious to the casual observer.If that makes you feel confident then so it be.Not the first time that LVG made a weird decision and most of them didn't come off.I don't think any of them are the talents that we have to get into the first team at all cost (i.e "special talents") but this has Blackett written all over again (except for Goss being a better talent).People at Carrington I know is pretty confused by the decision as well.I hope LVG will be proven right but I only trust what I see.
Well obviously it's very hard generally for academy graduates to make it with the first team but wrong decisions won't help it either.More informed decisions are not always correct decisions, as seen in Blackett's case (not that a "correct" decision will result in another youngster making the grade).To put it straight, I have no confidence in LVG in making right decisions consistently in terms of which youth should be given chances out of the "not special" ones, just like how Fergie made a lot of shit buys over the years despite obviously more "informed" than us about how good those players were.It might not really impact the first team but it's unfair for the better youngsters and might lose us a potential first teamer or two from the academies which are this club's tradition.I just think there's a certain breed of fan who get far too emotionally invested in reserve/underage players when the harsh reality is that almost none of them will make it anywhere near good enough for first team. I used to be a bit like that myself. I remember being gutted when we cut David Jones loose. I personally doubt Blackett will have a long career at United, nor do I think the players his presence has squeezed out will be missed. For whatever reason, he was given a bit more of a chance than other, highly rated kids and chances are that decision was better informed than any you'd read on here (or in whatever twitter chat goes on about the same subject) I'm sure the decision to bring Goss along on tour was similarly rational, whether or not that rationale is obvious to the casual observer.
Like I said, that's bit of an absurd stance to take when you consider his track record as a manager.Well obviously it's very hard generally for academy graduates to make it with the first team but wrong decisions won't help it either.More informed decisions are not always correct decisions, as seen in Blackett's case (not that a "correct" decision will result in another youngster making the grade).To put it straight, I have no confidence in LVG in making right decisions consistently in terms of which youth should be given chances out of the "not special" ones, just like how Fergie made a lot of shit buys over the years despite obviously more "informed" than us about how good those players were.It might not really impact the first team but it's unfair for the better youngsters.
People will get old.You saw that with SAF.Obviously I still hope that I'm wrong and he's right but my head is thinking otherwise.Guess we'll wait and see.Like I said, that's bit of an absurd stance to take when you consider his track record as a manager.
The players who didnt make it were really told they weren't upto the mark? ouch!He promised to bring a lot more youngsters but never mind.Actually the rest were told that they are not up to his mark.Would be curious myself to see what's the criteria that Sean has but the rest don't.Hopefully not the left foot thingy again.
Why would they be confused? Lets be honest here, there's very little reason to take youngsters on pre-season except maybe to show the world we still have an academy and give 1-2 exceptional youngsters the opportunity and the experience. Its a small bonus.If that makes you feel confident then so it be.Not the first time that LVG made a weird decision and most of them didn't come off.I don't think any of them are the talents that we have to get into the first team at all cost (i.e "special talents") but this has Blackett written all over again (except for Goss being a better talent).People at Carrington I know are pretty confused by the decision as well.I hope LVG will be proven right but I only trust what I see.
Because words have been widely spread that some of the other youngsters will get the chance but that didn't come off.One youngster even signed the contract because of that.Why would they be confused? Lets be honest here, there's very little reason to take youngsters on pre-season except maybe to show the world we still have an academy and give 1-2 exceptional youngsters the opportunity and the experience. Its a small bonus.
The most important thing in pre-season is getting our senior players fit and scoring some commercial revenue, expanding our brand. The fans are paying hundreds of dollars to watch the first team play, not the kids. Maybe it sounds harsh but thats the truth innit? Having said that, I do enjoying seeing the kids get these opportunities in preseason. Blackett earned himself a spot on the squad on the back of his performances last preseason.
Everyone will get a game on tour. We will completely change our team at half time.He must have done something good to be going on tour with that packed midfield. I had doubts even Pereira might get a game there and he's been long overdue.
There's a total of 360 minutes on offer and Van Gaal said he plans to get every key first team player 180 minutes of game time so not sure how everyone on the tour party can play significantly.Everyone will get a game on tour. We will completely change our team at half time.
Exactly any tour squad is going to be made up of the first team with youngsters plugging gaps, there was no way we were ever going to take as many youngsters as some people thought because the squad would have been way to big and there just isn't enough playing time to go round.Why would they be confused? Lets be honest here, there's very little reason to take youngsters on pre-season except maybe to show the world we still have an academy and give 1-2 exceptional youngsters the opportunity and the experience. Its a small bonus.
The most important thing in pre-season is getting our senior players fit and scoring some commercial revenue, expanding our brand. The fans are paying hundreds of dollars to watch the first team play, not the kids. Maybe it sounds harsh but thats the truth innit? Having said that, I do enjoying seeing the kids get these opportunities in preseason. Blackett earned himself a spot on the squad on the back of his performances last preseason.
He said every player for first 2 games will get 45 minute each IIRC. then some players will get 60 for next 2 games.There's a total of 360 minutes on offer and Van Gaal said he plans to get every key first team player 180 minutes of game time so not sure how everyone on the tour party can play significantly.
Meaning? They have been told that it is the end of the road or that they need to work harder?He promised to bring a lot more youngsters but never mind.Actually the rest were told that they are not up to his mark.Would be curious myself to see what's the criteria that Sean has but the rest don't.Hopefully not the left foot thingy again.
Not up to his mark to feature on this pre-season.Imagine that would be the end of the road for Varela and co.Obviously Gribbin etc still have plenty of times.Meaning? They have been told that it is the end of the road or that they need to work harder?
I really don't care about Varela but I will be a little disappointed if that is the verdict on Harrop, Pearson and Rothwell. Thought they will get at least a chance to showcase themselves during the pre-season. Hopefully, they'll have good loans sorted, get regular football, improve and bring themselves back into the reckoning for the next pre-season.Not up to his mark to feature on this pre-season.Imagine that would be the end of the road for Varela and co.Obviously Gribbin etc still have plenty of times.
LVG has always been harsh(Well a bit of an arsehole) with younger players. Didn't the first he meet Pique(Who was about 14 at the time)he pushed him over and said he wasn't tough enough.Not up to his mark to feature on this pre-season.Imagine that would be the end of the road for Varela and co.Obviously Gribbin etc still have plenty of times.
Struggle a bit in the U21's but he is quality.He's got the best youtube single-game every touch videos of any of our reserves, but I stopped watching the actual games so really can't comment on more than that. But watch them if you're bored. He looks like he has that extra bit of composure you want a CM to have.
Only my personal feeling but I reckon it would be very hard to change LVG's mind once he has made up his mind about something.Hope they look at Thorpe's case and try to sort themselves a loan/permanent move asap.I really don't care about Varela but I will be a little disappointed if that is the verdict on Harrop, Pearson and Rothwell. Thought they will get at least a chance to showcase themselves during the pre-season. Hopefully, they'll have good loans sorted, get regular football, improve and bring themselves back into the reckoning for the next pre-season.
Why would you hope the best U21s at the club you support all leave asap? You've got very strange priorities.Only my personal feeling but I reckon it would be very hard to change LVG's mind once he has made up his mind about something.Hope they look at Thorpe's case and try to sort themselves a loan/permanent move asap.
Because I want the best for their careers having watched them for a few years.If the manager doesn't fancy you even for pre-season why not move to a side when you're trusted to play football and build your career up?If one of them turn out to be a Matic United can always buy them back.Not saying they definitely should all seek for moves but I think it's an option.Why would you hope the best U21s at the club you support all leave asap? You've got very strange priorities.
LVG is correct though, they aren't good enough at this time and they will need to go on loan and change his opinion but chances are they will never get a chance in the first team because there is too much competition.Only my personal feeling but I reckon it would be very hard to change LVG's mind once he has made up his mind about something.Hope they look at Thorpe's case and try to sort themselves a loan/permanent move asap.
So if one of them went instead of Goss, would you be hoping he leaves? Maybe they could have gone instead of Pereira? Presumably you'd be rooting for him to move to another club in that scenario?Because I want the best for their careers having watched them for a few years.If the manager doesn't fancy you even for pre-season why not move to a side when you're trusted to play football and build your career up?If one of them turn out to be a Matic United can always buy them back.Not saying they definitely should all seek for moves but I think it's an option.
Yeah, no point staying here and stagnating if you are getting overlooked for younger, sometimes less talented, players.Only my personal feeling but I reckon it would be very hard to change LVG's mind once he has made up his mind about something.Hope they look at Thorpe's case and try to sort themselves a loan/permanent move asap.
So if you're a Manchester United fan you'll hope for your best young players to stay at the club just for the sake of them still being United players?Until they're too old to be considered "youth prospects" and too late for them to build a good career they deserve?Would it benefit the club or any party?It's not like I'm rooting for them to come to one of our rivals.I have no idea why you considered this idea to be mind-blowing, it's not like their departure will impact the first team or anything.We've too many cashes to spend on transfers now that no talent can't be replaced unless you're one of the best in the world.So if one of them went instead of Goss, would you be hoping he leaves? Maybe they could have gone instead of Pereira? Presumably you'd be rooting for him to move to another club in that scenario?
Out of interest, do you consider yourself a Manchester United fan? Or a fan of the individual players at the reserve/academy? The whole idea of a United fan actively hoping our best young players leave because of a minor snub in pre-season blows my mind tbh.
He's still 19 so it's definitely not his make or break season. But yeah, LVG sees something in him so lets see how the kid does.I am just happy that he gets to experience playing with the first team to start his 'make or break season'. If he does not become a part of the first team this season, then most probably he will be loaned out the next (and sold thereafter).
he's too tidy for CB, it would be like playing Carrick there but Carrick has got experience.. I'd like to see him as LCMWhat are peoples thoughts on Goss getting minutes as a CB? With Rojo out, maybe thats why Goss got the nod? He would have immense passing range for a CB and should be up to scratch strength/height wise. Have never really been impressed by his actual defending though as a CM. Great to see him get a chance regardless!
Not really. He's got pretty tall but he's slender, with no real physical presence or aerial ability.What are peoples thoughts on Goss getting minutes as a CB? With Rojo out, maybe thats why Goss got the nod? He would have immense passing range for a CB and should be up to scratch strength/height wise. Have never really been impressed by his actual defending though as a CM. Great to see him get a chance regardless!
Morgan/Carrick/Goss Bastian/Herrera/GossNot really. He's got pretty tall but he's slender, with no real physical presence or aerial ability.
To my eye he's one of those players who can really only play in his best position and nowhere else. And oddly, that position is the one we've just bought two new players for on top of Carrick and Blind. Possibly LVG saw his goal against Leicester and thinks he can play as more of an AM, but I don't much fancy him there compared to the deeper, controlling role.
I guess he turns 20 in october, so he has another season. But my point was that, if he has to be considered one of the players that can make the step up to the first team, then this season (and maybe the next) are his opportunity. If he is not in the first team squad in the next 18 months, he will probably be shipped out and then sold like most youngsters in the academy/reserves that go on club tours.He's still 19 so it's definitely not his make or break season. But yeah, LVG sees something in him so lets see how the kid does.