Adebesi
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That's an interesting proposition, I think I would go for the FA Cup just because its been so long since we won it, it'd be a monkey off our back.I'd much rather get to the last 4 of the CL than win the FA Cup
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That's an interesting proposition, I think I would go for the FA Cup just because its been so long since we won it, it'd be a monkey off our back.I'd much rather get to the last 4 of the CL than win the FA Cup
100% agree. It would be nice to win the FA Cup or League Cup but for me that does not make or break a season at all.Personally I don't care if we get a trophy.
How can I not care about trophies?
If we challenge for the league, if we're in the last 4 of the CL, if we lose to Chelsea 0-1 at Wembley, that would be a great season.
I'd much rather get to the last 4 of the CL than win the FA Cup, because we need to prove we're back against the best, and the FA Cup doesn't say that. You can lose the CL and still come out better for it, look at Juve.
Most seasons I'd take the trophy but I want us to compete for the League and the CL.
I'd rather lose the title by a point to Chelsea and lose the FA Cup than win the FA Cup but finish in 2nd while 15 points behind the winner.
We need consistency against the middle of the road teams, the Spurs, Southamptons, Swanseas of the league, to be fair we've been pretty good against the better teams, who will come out and play football with us.
This, plus a trophy I think.1. Challenge for the title even if we end up falling away at the end. Minimum Top 3.
2. Don't play shit football.
3. Qualify for the CL and the move into the Round of 16.
We have to be realistic, the drop from Ferguson's last year to Moyes was quite honestly staggering both in regards to the football and the mentality of the team. A side that had finished no worse than 3rd for over two decades and loses no key players finishes 7th with 9 losses and gets beaten by 3's and 4's against our rivals. Some of the expectations I added should our minimum standards but with the likes of Chelsea and City strong and spending as well as Arsenal who may be in the mix it's not going to be easy. One thing I think will be important is how well we actually progress in terms of the football, I don't think many on here will be that happy with 3rd if we achieve it by scraping through games like we have a times this year.Reading some of the posts here, can't believe the standards of expectations of Manchester United fans has fallen so much. 3rd in PL and last 16 in CL with a good cup run and you are happy after spending 300mn in 2 years?
Finishing 2nd 15 points off isn't a title challenge. Finishing 3rd 3 points off would be. Basically, being right up there with a chance of winning it till the last few games.Everyone says 'title challenge'. What does this mean?
If we finish second, does that automatically count as a title challenge? If we miss out on the league by five or six games, does this count? We were in with a chance until game 33, for example.
Or if we finish a certain number of points off?
Like, what is the cut off point? I've always found the term daft. Surely you can 'challenge' for the title and finish third or fourth.
So isn't it just better to aim/set your objectives around a certain position in the league?
Good point. My objectives / expectations are quite modest at this point. If we do good transfer business - sign quality players in positions where we actually need them, and do it early - my optimism will increase and my expectations rise.Totally depends on our Summer activity. After seeing what we go into the new season with, objectives should come clearer.
Ideally a good title challenge though and at least into the quarters of the CL. Plus a good Cup run in the COC or/and FA Cup.
Conversely, my expectations for the season are completely unaffected by our transfer business!Good point. My objectives / expectations are quite modest at this point. If we do good transfer business - sign quality players in positions where we actually need them, and do it early - my optimism will increase and my expectations rise.
Yes you are consistently a fair bit more optimistic than I am. I admire your relentless positivity but I think we are short. If we go into the season without getting a new centre back, for example, I think that would be negligent, given a defensive injury crisis is a regular, annual occurrence. In midfield I also think something has got to give, either the way Van Gaal sets his team up, or the personnel. And given Van Gaal is unlikely to change his ways, someone new to play in there and give him the balance he wants is also pretty much essential.Conversely, my expectations for the season are completely unaffected by our transfer business!
I expect to improve on the 4th place finish with a title challenge - get past the Euro group stages and winning a domestic cup would be nice.
Well my positivity is not just about our current options, it is also because I am absolutely certain that LvG will bring in the exact players he wants to take us to the next level.Yes you are consistently a fair bit more optimistic than I am. I admire your relentless positivity but I think we are short. If we go into the season without getting a new centre back, for example, I think that would be negligent, given a defensive injury crisis is a regular, annual occurrence. In midfield I also think something has got to give, either the way Van Gaal sets his team up, or the personnel. And given Van Gaal is unlikely to change his ways, someone new to play in there and give him the balance he wants is also pretty much essential.
Depends how we do business this summer, but if we smash another 100M+, title challenge and QF/semis in the CL is the minimum we should expect.
Ah OK. I was thinking about this post, where that is not the implication.Well my positivity is not just about our current options, it is also because I am absolutely certain that LvG will bring in the exact players he wants to take us to the next level.
Im a glass half full type of person but I honestly think we could win the league without buying anyone else - too many transfer muppets who think that the only way to improve is to buy buy buy.