Don't start all that business
Segregated travel
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
I did say "I don't see anywhere in this thread". By the way, that link was from 2015.
Anyway, there was no relevance to the subject of bringing Hamas into the thread. If the proposer has the support of Mr Corbyn then all good.
Its an issue which was put forward by a labour MP. JC is the labour party leader so we assume he agrees with it especially since he suggested something similar in the past. He also called Hamas friends too. All of what I said is the truth and I can produce links to it. If such things embarass JC then it shouldnt be my or anybody else problem.
The Tory party is put to shame in the Brexit thread for silly things they said in the past. The same rules should be applied to the labour party as well. That's how I feel we can avoid bias.
I don't want to derail this thread any further. But the impression given is not to say anything bad about labour else you risk a warning/ban
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Only if the profits from the segregated trains goes towards funding Hummus
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The new-age left's indefatigable desire to pulverise the 'patriarchy', and all 'evil' associated with it, shows no sign of slowing down.
Not sure what all the fuss is about but I for one am not averse to ground chickpea based finger food
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Nothing should be segregated
Why do we even live in a world with walls.
We need to tear down walls, walls shouldn't exist.
Why do we even live in a world with walls.
We need to tear down walls, walls shouldn't exist.
You're onto something. No segregated toilets and changing rooms. Works a treat.
We haven't had them "without any trouble". That's the whole reason a women only carriage is being proposed.
I don't hate the idea. I've had more than a few unpleasant/scary experiences on public transit, and it sucks as the situation is hard to remove yourself from.
Black people and gay people have likely had unpleasant experience with racism and homophobic attacks on trains. The answer isn't to say to people 'I'm sorry but the white, heterosexual, non-disabled train will be along shortly'. This isn't the answer. It kind of also indicates that male victims of sexual assault, who absolutely exist, aren't as deserving of protection. Also it'd make other carriages presumably more testosterone-filled creating an environment which is potentially more hostile for those minorities not eligible for female only carriage.
In principle you're right, but in reality it probably just means women will continue to be forced into these horrible situations. It would fecking suck having to bring back a form of segregation, but frankly if its the only way to guarantee people protection from sexual assault and harrassment then it might be necessary. Sickening that we seem to be taking a step backwards not forwards in terms of peoples attitudes and behaviour though. I've never, ever understood the mindset some guys seem to have where groping or harassing a complete fecking stranger seems acceptable to them. How does that craziness even fecking start in their brains?
Maybe time-restrictions with regards to segregated travel would be more sensible. Late evenings, we could maybe have female only carriages available or during rush hour (though I struggle to see how it would be feasible).
As long as its not compulsory, and just a few carriages on offer - I don't see why not, and people have the option to not use them if it doesn't matter to them. Then judge it after a year or so to see if it has been a success.
My wife avoids the tube for a reason as she feels uncomfortable, so I am sure there is a demand out there for it.
As long as its not compulsory, and just a few carriages on offer - I don't see why not, and people have the option to not use them if it doesn't matter to them. Then judge it after a year or so to see if it has been a success.
My wife avoids the tube for a reason as she feels uncomfortable, so I am sure there is a demand out there for it.
I wonder if the issue is also that in some cases it's a direct attack against women and their role in modern society.
Well, even if we leave out the discussion of how women experience abuse on public transit vs. how minorities and LGBT people experience abuse on public transit, there's a pretty simple reason as to why there's a push specifically for women-only carriages. ~50% of the UK population is female, while only ~13% is non-white, and <5% is LGBT.
How do you know someone one is a lesbian or a gay man when they get on a train? Surely the vast majority of homophobic abuse on public transport is directed at hetro people.
it'd be cold, and you'd hate the smell after someone's taken a shit.
Now you're being scentist
That's true. Horses for courses. I take it back.
I'd imagine it's directed at gay couples rather than individuals. At least that's the case in my experience.
Corbyn has dropped the idea because no one wants segregated travel in the UK, including women.
Fair play to them then. It should only be considered if there's a big enough demand for it.
One of the many upsides to Corbyn being Labour leader is how it turns certain people into foaming at the mouth daily mail readers.