Sergi Roberto

[FCBarca]

MD claim United's €40 million offer for Sergi has been turned down by the club

 

[van der star]

Doesn't he have a £36m release clause in his contract?

 

[Godfather]

Good lord no

 

[FCBarca]

Doesn't he have a £36m release clause in his contract?

That equates to €40 million and, again, paying the release clause does not translate to landing the player in Spain - player has to agree to said move

 

[KM]

That equates to €40 million and, again, paying the release clause does not translate to landing the player in Spain - player has to agree to said move

Yes. But the club still can't turn down the offer, so that report is bogus.

 

[roonster09]

Yes. But the club still can't turn down the offer, so that report is bogus.

It looks like Manutd name is just used randomly.

 

[FCBarca]

Yes. But the club still can't turn down the offer, so that report is bogus.

I think it simply means no deal despite the offer but sure, it could be bogus too

 

[gaucho_10]

Sergi Roberto is a decent midfielder.

 

[Bwuk]

Why would we be interested?

He wouldn't get a game in our midfield as it stands. Matic, Herrera and Pogba would all start ahead of him.

 

[prateik]

That equates to €40 million and, again, paying the release clause does not translate to landing the player in Spain - player has to agree to said move

What does that have to do with Spain? A player would have to agree to a move anywhere in the world.
I dont think you can force a player to sign a contract just because his release clause was met

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Barca's board will be fecking stupid if they let a LA Masia product like him slip through their fingers.

 

[KM]

I think it simply means no deal despite the offer but sure, it could be bogus too

Academy player who's been playing regularly for Barcelona. I don't see him leaving nor do I rate him much.

 

[FCBarca]

What does that have to do with Spain? A player would have to agree to a move anywhere in the world.
I dont think you can force a player to sign a contract just because his release clause was met

Meant to explain that transfers in Spain do not happen like they do in England

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Why would we be interested?

He wouldn't get a game in our midfield as it stands. Matic, Herrera and Pogba would all start ahead of him.

We'd be very interested because he is young, is better than all our back up midfielders plus he can play wide, either as a winger or a full back.

 

[FCBarca]

Barca's board will be fecking stupid if they let a LA Masia product like him slip through their fingers.

Board won't have anything to do with it specifically related to Roberto as the player would need to decide (I am skeptical he would agree to leave). However, the board is absolutely culpable for the state of affairs at the club which has led to an exodus of cantera players and possibly 1st teamers

 

[izec]

So after Aurio, Fabinho, now Roberto. I see a pattern,or the media think we will buy a RB and link us to every half decent one

 

[roonster09]

Meant to explain that transfers in Spain do not happen like they do in England

No club will trigger release clause for lols, they do it only if they have agreement with the player.

 

[FCBarca]

No club will trigger release clause for lols, they do it only if they have agreement with the player.

Happens all the time

 

[roonster09]

Happens all the time

Club triggering release clause without agreement with the player? When did that happen?

No club even make official bid (forget release clause) if they know player is not open to move or don't agree general terms.

 

[FCBarca]

Club triggering release clause without agreement with the player? When did that happen?

No club even make official bid (forget release clause) if they know player is not open to move or don't agree general terms.

Clubs can indeed trigger release clause and then negotiate, this is the accepted practice as it does not constitute tapping up although we all know that is not how things are done much these days anymore

 

[roonster09]

Clubs can indeed trigger release clause and then negotiate, this is the accepted practice as it does not constitute tapping up although we all know that is not how things are done much these days anymore

Which makes your other post redundant.

 

[PedroMendez]

So after Aurio, Fabinho, now Roberto. I see a pattern,or the media think we will buy a RB and link us to every half decent one

He is not a rb. He played there various times but was average at best. He is a midfielder/utility player. He is useful to Barca because he can "do a job" in multiple positions and he knows their system. He is not particularly good so.

 

[Norris]

Not overly impressed by him. I think the team he plays for makes him look better than he actually is.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

He is not a rb. He played there various times but was average at best. He is a midfielder/utility player. He is useful to Barca because he can "do a job" in multiple positions and he knows their system. He is not particularly good so.

Mainly played right back last season I think?

 

[izec]

Mainly played right back last season I think?

Yes, but he is a midfielder. The reverse Fabinho

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

This would of made sense before we got Matic, but not now. Surely we wouldn't be buying him as a RB?

 

[Litch]

Never seen him play tbh and seems a bit random. If he's a utility player, I'm not sure where we need cover that's not already sorted. Tony is rarely injured and surely the cover should be from one of the young defenders? If true, seems a lot of money for a squad player?

 

[::sonny::]

He joins the immense list of average players we were linked during the years:

garay
gaitan
perisic
hart
morata
...

 

[Rado_N]

Happens all the time

Name one.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

We could do worse for £30M

 

[FCBarca]

Name one.

Article 18(3) of the FIFA Regulations on Transfers the selling club must first give permission for the prospective buyer to negotiate terms with the player in question - even if in practice this is not how it is routinely done.

Bonucci last year when City couldn't agree personal terms with the player despite meeting Juventus' valuation, Leonardo simply didn't want to leave Italy

Because a cláusula de rescission does not work like it does in England, in Spain if you try to agree personal terms first with the player you risk a hostile response from the club as was the case with Herrera or Javi Martinez for example. Mou et al know, you go to Barcelona first and agree on the fee (Else the fee can go higher due to the tax they can insist upon). The personal terms are typically the easiest part of the negotiations in a transfer. Moreover, a player like Sergi Roberto is not going to negotiate an exit unbeknownst to the club.

Only reason I could see United or other clubs interested in Roberto without his tacit approval is seeing that he has a relatively low transfer fee (In this bubble market) and the knowledge that there are going to be wholesale changes in midfield at Barcelona still

 

[devilish]

Is he good?

 

[AgentP]

I haven't really observed him during Barca games. But wasn't he the one who made that brilliant run in the El Classico that led to Messi's last minute winner? I also think he's the one who scored the winning goal against PSG. Might be wrong.

 

[#07]

Is anyone in the Manchester or Catalan press linking Sergi Roberto to United? The only rumours I've heard come from something called Don Balon. Doesn't sound solid.

 

[Rado_N]

Article 18(3) of the FIFA Regulations on Transfers the selling club must first give permission for the prospective buyer to negotiate terms with the player in question - even if in practice this is not how it is routinely done.

Bonucci last year when City couldn't agree personal terms with the player despite meeting Juventus' valuation, Leonardo simply didn't want to leave Italy

Because a cláusula de rescission does not work like it does in England, in Spain if you try to agree personal terms first with the player you risk a hostile response from the club as was the case with Herrera or Javi Martinez for example. Mou et al know, you go to Barcelona first and agree on the fee (Else the fee can go higher due to the tax they can insist upon). The personal terms are typically the easiest part of the negotiations in a transfer. Moreover, a player like Sergi Roberto is not going to negotiate an exit unbeknownst to the club.

Only reason I could see United or other clubs interested in Roberto without his tacit approval is seeing that he has a relatively low transfer fee (In this bubble market) and the knowledge that there are going to be wholesale changes in midfield at Barcelona still

I know what the rules are, but in the real world as you have seemingly acknowledged yourself, clubs don't trigger clauses without first obtaining the go ahead from the player via his agent.

 

[FCBarca]

I haven't really observed him during Barca games. But wasn't he the one who made that brilliant run in the El Classico that led to Messi's last minute winner? I also think he's the one who scored the winning goal against PSG. Might be wrong.

You are not wrong

 

[cyberman]

Apparently Edu Polo reported this who is tier 1 on Barcas subreddit.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Is anyone in the Manchester or Catalan press linking Sergi Roberto to United? The only rumours I've heard come from something called Don Balon. Doesn't sound solid.

It's the complete opposite of solid. They make things up. The Spanish Caught Offside.

 

[FCBarca]

I know what the rules are, but in the real world as you have seemingly acknowledged yourself, clubs don't trigger clauses without first obtaining the go ahead from the player via his agent.

I gave you examples of what I spoke of as well as the full context of transfers in/out of Spain

It's always possible that Sergi has negotiated terms with United behind Barcelona's back but if it were to be revealed, club would look it at as a hostile bid regardless - hence, the fee would have to go up as explained earlier. It's why it's best to deal with the club first with respect to the fee, then player as it is easiest.

In any event, if the bid is true I am skeptical that the player has already agreed terms as I mentioned in the OP

Moreover, trusted local reporter Gerard Romero has linked Sergi to Chelsea as well which suggests that opposing clubs are looking to tempt club/player due to all the uncertainty at Barcelona with respect to the midfield. Probably why Pep & City have been linked as well and in no link has rumours appeared on personal terms being met by any party

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Is he good?

The Spanish John O'Shea.