antohan
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Nah, don't like the geezer and my plans are rather different.@Šjor Bepo nice pick mate, would’ve suggested the same actually.
Thought @antohan would be all over him.
Nah, don't like the geezer and my plans are rather different.@Šjor Bepo nice pick mate, would’ve suggested the same actually.
Thought @antohan would be all over him.
Yeah absolutely and that will be one of the positives of the match day threads. There are a few picks that will split opinions.Hm but a player could be not at his peak but still better than some mediocre clogger for the oppo, surely?
Sure, that was just an extreme example. Plenty of more nuanced cases to be explored/argued to death in the match threads.But it is not an all time XI, it's more like an all time top 200 players, at which point there is a case to be made for some players at least.
Let's what appens.
That's one of the good things. As @BeforeKeanetherewasRobson says, you generate a new discussion - partly because it's a lot of new players, but also because we are looking at a lot of the usual stars but some of whom perhaps played their best football elsewhere or earlier/later in their career.Yeah absolutely and that will be one of the positives of the match day threads. There are a few picks that will split opinions.
hopefully you join us in the next one.....once you try you never go back.I get the criteria. Makes sense.
Impressed by your passion also chaps.
Well then, join the community. Here's some inspirational material to tempt you in....I get the criteria. Makes sense.
Impressed by your passion also chaps.
Maybe maybe.hopefully you join us in the next one.....once you try you never go back.
Forget your 40-game peak, we had a 4-game peak in place for that Prem draft.It's the difference between the all time draft and a specific criteria draft. It'd be a farce to pick Veron in a EPL draft, for example.
Jeez a 4 game peak. I mean Mickey Evans once won player of the month in the PL.Forget your 40-game peak, we had a 4-game peak in place for that Prem draft.
FtfyI get the criteria. Makes sense.
ImpressedFreaked out by your passion also chaps.
Cheers for fisting that for me.Ftfy
Ah, I thought he was the impact sub you were talking about earlier.Nah, don't like the geezer and my plans are rather different.
Agree - it's not in the OP.Are GKs being used to decide draws now? I don’t think it’s fair to add that rule now. Many of us (including us) would have probably picked a keeper earlier had we known that GKs would be important enough to affect results
You don't rate him or looking for something different as a type?Nah, don't like the geezer and my plans are rather different.
We discussed this yesterday and @2mufc0 confirmed it.Are GKs being used to decide draws now? I don’t think it’s fair to add that rule now. Many of us (including us) would have probably picked a keeper earlier had we known that GKs would be important enough to affect results
Bit of both. Mostly that I'm looking for a different type.You don't rate him or looking for something different as a type?
Thought he was really good at Napoli up top. Then injuries took their toll but still he was very good when on.
BTW, this notion that keepers are irrelevant and don't affect results has turned absolutely ridiculous.Are GKs being used to decide draws now? I don’t think it’s fair to add that rule now. Many of us (including us) would have probably picked a keeper earlier had we known that GKs would be important enough to affect results
It's not really that it was introduced out of nowhere. It was in place at least in the last couple of drafts and, by all accounts, worked well. I gave it for granted and I'm sure I'm not the only one.I think it's a bit strange to introduce that rule when 3 goalkeepers were already picked, but whatever.
I don't know who is in the GK committee and wondered what their take would be given many things pointing towards Peruzzi (we've had that debate before and got nowhere).
FWIW @idmanager, I would have picked Pagliuca as well, so if we play each other and draw, you win.
It’s useful in an All time Draft where there are easily 10 goalkeeepers at the least who could be GOAT or thereabouts but it doesn’t make sense to use it in such a limited pool. Especially introducing it in the middle of the draft because had we known it earlier it would have made a difference to the way we draft.BTW, this notion that keepers are irrelevant and don't affect results has turned absolutely ridiculous.
The fact you are exclusively worrying about their relevance in the event that 20-30 people voting on a poll produce a draw is mindboggling. That is exactly why it was introduced and been in place in every draft since: people not factoring in keepers has gone too far.
I think harms and prath have a fair point but IMO we should continue with GK rule. There is no other way to make GKs relevant in a draft. Only problem is that ranking of keepers in same ball park in this draft will get very contentious if it comes into play for some draw.I think some fair points have been made, and it's my fault for not laying out the rules in the case of a draw at the start. Ideally i should have put in the average time pick like we did in the previous draft.
I'll leave to the rest of the drafters to decide, if you think we should scrap the GK rule and choose between deciding draws by:
1) Penalties
2) I find a neutral who didn't vote in the game to decide it
Or continue with the GK rule.
Agreed. Although I did like the GK thing as well.My 2 cents on keeper business (not just this draft) is that I don't like trying to artificially make any position important. We all have been doing draft for quite long now and everyone has a decent understanding of the game, if everyone collectively doesn't rate / vote for keepers then may be they are not that important. Either way let the voters decide.
I think the opposite, it is particularly relevant when keeper quality is clearly different and, from what half of you are saying, you don't give two shits about it. If anyone sacrificed an important pick for a decent keeper instead of picking Simon Mignolet at the death in R14 they deserve the advantage (akin to the away goals rule, not a 1-0 deficit) for getting DDG in R7 instead.It’s useful in an All time Draft where there are easily 10 goalkeeepers at the least who could be GOAT or thereabouts but it doesn’t make sense to use it in such a limited pool. Especially introducing it in the middle of the draft because had we known it earlier it would have made a difference to the way we draft.
Obviously Goalkeepers are important but unless specified earlier it seems a bit unfair to say that if your keeper isn’t as good as the other team’s then you could lose in the event of a tie. Essentially you are starting with a 1-0 deficit if you are up against someone like Pagliuca or Buffon.
Yeah I think it's shifted, a long way from when you could just stick 'goalie' in and get away with it. That said, we still see the odd clown keeper cause less voting problems than they arguably should, so I'm quite open to using it as a tool that is relevant to the match to separate draws. Prefer it to the pure lottery based resolutions, as least it has some resonance to the drafting process. It's also fairly proportionate given draws are rare and keepers can be underappreciated.My 2 cents on keeper business (not just this draft) is that I don't like trying to artificially make any position important. We all have been doing draft for quite long now and everyone has a decent understanding of the game, if everyone collectively doesn't rate / vote for keepers then may be they are not that important. Either way let the voters decide.
Was that Brwned suggesting Pete and you were built around players he didn't rate like Cruyff or Moore? Knew you were a dead-man walking.That said, I'm fine with a coin toss (not the one neutral decides, that got made up on the spot in a final once and the moment the neutral was suggested I knew I had lost).
Fine by meAgreed. Although I did like the GK thing as well.
And since we don't reward the winners of the last draft with anything, how about he decides who wins the drawn games in the next draft. Super powers and shit.
That rings a bell, not sure it was me though.Was that Brwned suggesting Pete and you were built around players he didn't rate like Cruyff or Moore? Knew you were a dead-man walking.