It's on BBC tonight isn't it? Can't wait, should be able to watch it tomorrow!
Neither did Conan Doyle!!I really can't see how they are going to explain the faked death.
I dont think Sherlocks explanation to... whatever his name is, is the true one. We will find out what actually happened when he tells Watson.You don't need a plot if you've got slow motion.
I actually thought it started quite well, and the actual explanation was always going to be disappointing (there's only so many ways you can fall off a roof and survive without it being stupid) but I didn't get the point of why he did it in the end. If Mycroft shot the assassins (which were the actual peril) why did he get loads of people involved in an elaborate plan just to fool John? And if the assassins weren't killed, why don't they just kill them all now? What's changed? What was to be gained from fooling just John?
Also the plot, what plot there was, just...well sort of went nowhere. I thought the fake opening, Watson's reaction to first seeing Sherlock and a couple of Mycroft/Sherlock moments were fun. But then there was a pointless slow motion motorcycle chase, loads of hugely over stylised for stylisings sake bits, and a rushed non-terrorist story ripped from V for Vendetta.
Bit meh. Well made and acted meh. But still meh.
Yeah, I actually thought this same thing after I made that post... so yeah, very fair point.You say that, but the pilot managed to introduce all the characters and concepts in the same time whilst also having a plot. 90 minutes is more than enough. It's more than virtually anything else gets.
Good point. I've read the moaning in here banging on about how the fake death explanation was poor or boring bla bla bla....bit of a silly judgement when he never actually revealed how he did it. Yet.I liked the return, well written and well acted.
The group that kept coming up with how they thought he had faked it , did not like them, I meant a gay kiss between Holmes and Moriarty
The way he reviled himself to Watson was very well done , then the down grading of eating places after Watson hit Holmes was funny.
I thought the main plot line about the terrorist attack might has well not of been there, it was like OH shit we have this plot, we must do something with it.
I wanted them to tell us how Holmes faked his death.
It was very much style over substance and I found it to be disappointing too. I guess the previous episodes were of such a high standard that something had to slip eventually.I dont get why he went to all that trouble just to fool his best mate. Wasn't it the assassins they had to fool? The assassins who Mycroft had shot anyway. What was the point in any of it?
Also, there wasn't really a plot to that episode.
Nope, not in the slightest. They kept referencing to 13 different scenarios, we seen 4(?), we'll probably see all 13 with the 13th and real one being told to Watson at the end of this series. Sherlock made a point to Anderson that why would he have come to tell him, out of everyone, the truth. Anderson also twigged it probably wasn't real when he mentioned Watson would have had to stay in the same place for it to work perfectly. Oh and at the end of the episode they also made a point of Watson asking Sherlock to at least tell him how he managed to do it.Wait so you people think what he told Anderson wasn't the truth?
The one he told Anderson was pretty much the most popular fan theory. Something to cushion his fall and the rubber ball to stop his pulse. It's pretty plausible although I thought there was another one of Moriarty's men watching the rooftop so that he could tell the snipers if Sherlock jumped. Wouldn't he have seen the huge blue cushion? Anderson going crazy at the end made me laugh. I do hope the real explanation is good though.Nope, not in the slightest. They kept referencing to 13 different scenarios, we seen 4(?), we'll probably see all 13 with the 13th and real one being told to Watson at the end of this series. Sherlock made a point to Anderson that why would he have come to tell him, out of everyone, the truth. Anderson also twigged it probably wasn't real when he mentioned Watson would have had to stay in the same place for it to work perfectly. Oh and at the end of the episode they also made a point of Watson asking Sherlock to at least tell him how he managed to do it.
Great cameo by SAF at the end there.
Benedict Cumberbatch is Sherlock. The writing is excellent and the two main characters have great chemistry. Someone else can probably convince you better, but it's mostly the writing and Cumberbatch that made me a fan. The producers based the plots on Doyle's stories anyway so it's definitely canonical to an extent.Q: How would this show appeal to people like me, who love the Conan Doyle stories & Jeremy Brett's portrayal of Sherlock?
Yeah it's got great acting, it's quite fast paced, some episodes are truly excellent, and even the weaker ones are enjoyable. It's also very funny and witty, some of the one liners are SteveJ-worthy, which is saying a lot.Q: How would this show appeal to people like me, who love the Conan Doyle stories & Jeremy Brett's portrayal of Sherlock?
No. Pilots are always harder. And the beginning of the episode was fine. It was the last half that should've had a plot that wasn't.Mockney, you say that the pilot managed to introduce everyone whilst still having a plot, you're right, but I think in a way the beginning of this episode was more tricky to handle.
More than the pilot?It was introducing people
One, possibly two loose ends. The main one it didn't resolve until the very end (rightly IMO)it was resolving loose ends
If they haven't, then it's even more criminal that they spent about of a 3rd of the episode dealing with or alluding to it when there should've been a plot.and not leaving too much hanging in the air (although I like that they haven't yet told us how he did it, sure it's not primordial but I like how they're building it up).
Fan porn is almost always bad, especially when it's used as misdirection from an actual plot. Everything needs a plot!I also thought having his real life parents in the episode was quite funny. Basically, it was a bit 'fan porn', loads of treats.
Sorry, I meant 'reintroducing' people. The whole 30 first minutes of the film where trying to create the link between season 2 and 3. And I think you're a bit harsh: the plot was weak and wasn't as good as in other episodes, but there still was one, it wasn't people making jokes randomly for 90 minutes. And it certainly didn't feel that way. Also, I don't think there's too much wrong with a little bit of fanporn, there were loads of nice little touches that made Sherlock's return very enjoyable.No. Pilots are always harder. And the beginning of he episode was fine. It was the last half that shouldve had a plot that wasn't.
More than the pilot?
Surely one, possibly two loose ends. The main one it didn't resolve until the very end (rightly IMO)
If they havent, then it's even more criminal that they spent about of a 3rd of the episode dealing with or alluding to it when there should've been a plot.
Fan porn is almost always bad, especially when it's used as misdirection from an actual plot. Everything needs a plot!
Also Freeman was far better than Cumberbatch in this ep. In fact it's probably the best role he's ever player.