Ekeke
Full Member
And would have been mid table without himWe've been shit for 5 years.
And would have been mid table without himWe've been shit for 5 years.
Rumors we're going to extend Young, which would be terrible. He's awful, as is Valencia. If we extend either one of them, the club has lost the plot officially.I hope that's the last defender we are going to extend from the current lot
I must have wiped that from my memory.Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Personally I think Jones has/had the potential to be a far, far better defender than Smalling and coaches didn’t want to give up on that but I think that horse has bolted now with the latest batch of injuries.Jones made it to the world cup should he get a new contract then? You dont think the fact that southgate prefers younger players might have something to do with it?
I guess he just chooses to never show it huh? He's scored more goals against United than Messi and Ronaldo! Crap centerback, should've been sold along with Jonny Evans.Personally I think Jones has/had the potential to be a far, far better defender than Smalling and coaches didn’t want to give up on that but I think that horse has bolted now with the latest batch of injuries.
A lot of frustration showing from fans in this thread. Except for only a few unrealistic Smalling haters getting their rocks on, it seems that everybody is just tired of our club's tendency to ignore the need of getting the quality players needed to take us forward. People are just venting here. I'm sure everyone deep down realises cutting ties with Smalling at this moment would be counter-productive if the goal is to quickly archive a stronger squad.
If Pep was our manager he would have wanted to sell every single defender. He wouldnt have been able to do that though. Same way Jose couldn’t. Pep spent £30 million a backup fullback. We have spent a total of £19 million on fullbacks in 5 windows. That was a 19 year old who has barely played top flight football.well pep let sanga, zableta, clincy, kolarov go on free in one summer and bought walker, mendy, danilo, and laporte the winter after. Last time I checked, it worked out pretty well.
You can add Jonny Evans to that who is comfortably better than Jones, Bailly, Lindelof and Rojo. Its baffling to me how anyone can watch us and think we should get rid of Smalling before the rest, even ignoring that they are all injured for the majority of the time.This is like when people wanted to get rid of the likes of Nani, Rafael, etc. before finding replacement, and then we replaced them with the likes of Memphis Depay and Darmian. Great times, just shows how fickle our fans(and our board) are. 5 years later, we still have worse options on the wing and fullback than Rafael and Nani. But as long as we got rid of them, eh?
3 of the few players in the squad that look like they care. You won't see them dancing on Instagram like idiots while we're getting beat every week.Remember when United had the right balance of loyalty to players and ruthlessness?
Fellaini, Young now Smalling. We're rewarding mediocrity.
Judging by how we spent that money elsewhere, it was never an issue of not having enough of it but more like incompetent decision that has gotten us fecked defensively. However it's looked, we had more than enough money to improve the backline but we didn't.If Pep was our manager he would have wanted to sell every single defender. He wouldnt have been able to do that though. Same way Jose couldn’t. Pep spent £30 million a backup fullback. We have spent a total of £19 million on fullbacks in 5 windows. That was a 19 year old who has barely played top flight football.
I have been saying for a little while. That's our new motto these daysRemember when United had the right balance of loyalty to players and ruthlessness?
Fellaini, Young now Smalling. We're rewarding mediocrity.
I have been saying for a little while. That's our new motto these daysRemember when United had the right balance of loyalty to players and ruthlessness?
Fellaini, Young now Smalling. We're rewarding mediocrity.
The renewal doesn't bother me much, it's the 4 years (allegedly or is it confirmed ?). That's just too much for meHe’s earned the contract tbf. I’ve been critical of him but he’s clearly the best of a bad bunch. And we can’t sell all our defenders.
I couldn't agree more.1) his contract expires end of 2019 season plus a one year extension I.e end of 2020 season by that point I would hope we would have centre backs that can play football.
2) by paying him £120k per week you make his value zero, as no other club would pay that even on a free
3) on £120k per week, the club sees him as a first team player in terms of budget. Are you happy with those aspirations?
4) he’s a donkey.
Nature of the beast these days. Selling Smalling would be idiotic. Jones and rojo need to go, buy two replacements or one top level one, and keep Smalling, lindelof and give Bailly one more chance.Apparently the best way to improve your defense is by getting rid of your best defender. Redcafe posters are the smartest
Not by getting rid of him per se but definitely by not rewarding him like that. This contract extension is crazy when you think about itApparently the best way to improve your defense is by getting rid of your best defender. Redcafe posters are the smartest
Apparently it's a 3 year extension till 2022 with another year option solely with United , So I believe it's Ok ideally we should move on Rojo and Jones before the start of next season and then review the situation in 2020 again to see who need to be let go from Bailly , Lindelof and Smalling.Not by getting rid of him per se but definitely by not rewarding him like that. This contract extension is crazy when you think about it
It's not. He's perfectly fine as a set of four CBs at the club. The problem is how bad the other 3 are.Not by getting rid of him per se but definitely by not rewarding him like that. This contract extension is crazy when you think about it
No chance.Awful player absolutely awful
That's perfect then. But we need to ensure the rest of the pack is strong. Smalling is the one of the defenders I'd keep for sure.Apparently it's a 3 year extension till 2022 with another year option solely with United , So I believe it's Ok ideally we should move on Rojo and Jones before the start of next season and then review the situation in 2020 again to see who need to be let go from Bailly , Lindelof and Smalling.
My point is, we are too loyal to too many mediocre players.3 of the few players in the squad that look like they care. You won't see them dancing on Instagram like idiots while we're getting beat every week.
What else are you going to do with your best CB leaving for free in the summer? Its extend the contract or need to sign another player to replace him when you already need to sign a CB to improve on the others. So probably getting 2 expensive CBs right when we cant seem to get any rightNot by getting rid of him per se but definitely by not rewarding him like that. This contract extension is crazy when you think about it
I think we under and over rate some of our players on here. We make the assumption that Smalling has zero negotiation power and would ok with a 2 year contract. I am afraid it’s not that simple. A player want some level of financial security too. It’s not a one way street.What else are you going to do with your best CB leaving for free in the summer? Its extend the contract or need to sign another player to replace him when you already need to sign a CB to improve on the others. So probably getting 2 expensive CBs right when we cant seem to get any right
And there's no guarantee that these new and exotic CBs would adapt quickly, or will even adapt to the League. Then we end up relying on youth or those crook CBs.What else are you going to do with your best CB leaving for free in the summer? Its extend the contract or need to sign another player to replace him when you already need to sign a CB to improve on the others. So probably getting 2 expensive CBs right when we cant seem to get any right
You give him 2 years at max. 4 years is stupidWhat else are you going to do with your best CB leaving for free in the summer? Its extend the contract or need to sign another player to replace him when you already need to sign a CB to improve on the others. So probably getting 2 expensive CBs right when we cant seem to get any right
It's still too much for me. Man United is a paradise for average players to get big contracts.Apparently it's a 3 year extension till 2022 with another year option solely with United , So I believe it's Ok ideally we should move on Rojo and Jones before the start of next season and then review the situation in 2020 again to see who need to be let go from Bailly , Lindelof and Smalling.
That contract extension is nuts. Extending him for a couple of seasons wouldn't be bad.It's not. He's perfectly fine as a set of four CBs at the club. The problem is how bad the other 3 are.
4 years is a bit much though.
Exactly. I thought it was an ok decision to extend, and then I read it was for 4 years.That contract extension is nuts. Extending him for a couple of seasons wouldn't be bad.
Why is it stupid to give him 4 years when we clearly need quite a bit of change in our backline? Having him be the veteran to help y the new players settle makes perfect sense. This isnt a computer game where we can expect to have a whole new squad of defenders within 2 years.You give him 2 years at max. 4 years is stupid
It's still too much for me. Man United is a paradise for average players to get big contracts.
That contract extension is nuts. Extending him for a couple of seasons wouldn't be bad.
Yet our fans expect us to be challenging them! Smalling is currently the best central defender we have. Would be madness to let him go and get another project in to replace him from the 30 million shelf.If Pep was our manager he would have wanted to sell every single defender. He wouldnt have been able to do that though. Same way Jose couldn’t. Pep spent £30 million a backup fullback. We have spent a total of £19 million on fullbacks in 5 windows. That was a 19 year old who has barely played top flight football.
I know you've always rated him highly so there ain't much I can say to ever convince you. I don't mind keeping him around but no one will ever convince me that 4 years is wise, that a salary is wise to a defender who isn't good enough for his country, for a defender who is still prone to ridiculous amateurish blundersWhy is it stupid to give him 4 years when we clearly need quite a bit of change in our backline? Having him be the veteran to help y the new players settle makes perfect sense. This isnt a computer game where we can expect to have a whole new squad of defenders within 2 years.
What did his country win after not selecting him again?I know you've always rated him highly so there ain't much I can say to ever convince you. I don't mind keeping him around but no one will ever convince me that 4 years is wise, that a salary is wise to a defender who isn't good enough for his country, for a defender who is still prone to ridiculous amateurish blunders