Proud_Lyon
Banned Cnut
Even Charlton had Bob Bolder, Oggy at Coventry, Shilts was still doing it for Derby. I don't know why we are troubled with that position these days.
Big Oggy eh!! He used to play County Cricket where I used to live...
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Even Charlton had Bob Bolder, Oggy at Coventry, Shilts was still doing it for Derby. I don't know why we are troubled with that position these days.
Yeah Ill take that, prestige is a different thing.
Im not sure Arsenal fit into the same category though, like I say a lot of continentals wont accept you as a big club unless you have won Europes top competition.
He said that they won't accept you if you haven't won a European Cup, not that they will if you have...So, you should actually retract your statement then:
Villa/Forest/Leeds etc were all big in their day, but I doubt many outside of the purists would refer to them as big now simply because they have fallen, the size of a club includes recent events too.A contradiction somewhat of what you said earlier, that I just quoted. Which one is it Rob? Normally, you are a decent poster. Just for information, Villa has won it as many times as Chelsea and Forest have won one more than Chelsea and in two successive seasons, therefore in your mind, they should be accepted because the have won "Europes top competition."
No not quite the same mate, what I mean is they wont accept you as a big club unless you've won the CL. We won it in 2012, not 1980.So, you should actually retract your statement then:
A contradiction somewhat of what you said earlier, that I just quoted. Which one is it Rob? Normally, you are a decent poster. Just for information, Villa has won it as many times as Chelsea and Forest have won one more than Chelsea and in two successive seasons, therefore in your mind, they should be accepted because the have won "Europes top competition."
Yeah, but they served up some pretty good games against Barcelona a few years before.Villa and Forest won their titles with some style too. Shit, even Norwich gave Bayern Munich a football lesson at home 20 years ago. The best the Russian could give us was tumescent shite and that full-kit wanker oafing about the pitch.
Villa and Forest won their titles with some style too. Shit, even Norwich gave Bayern Munich a football lesson at home 20 years ago. The best the Russian could give us was tumescent shite and that full-kit wanker oafing about the pitch.
Yeah, but they served up some pretty good games against Barcelona a few years before.
why is everyone so butt hurt about chelsea? saying chelsea has no history this and that(EVERY CLUB HAS THEIR OWN HISTORY!!!! HELL EVEN EVERTON HAS AN INTERESTING HISTORY!!!)...chelsea has always been able to attract decent names, they made it to champions league without the money, and like it or not they have ALOT of supporters world wide...probably more than a club like liverpool by now...also im sure all of you were born wearing a red devils shirt right? and supported united when they were shite? people start to like teams because they win plain and simple - GET OVER IT
Yeah, but nobody is making up stories about Arsenals football.As did we in the Final. We've given Barca a run for their money a few times too.
why is everyone so butt hurt about chelsea? saying chelsea has no history this and that(EVERY CLUB HAS THEIR OWN HISTORY!!!! HELL EVEN EVERTON HAS AN INTERESTING HISTORY!!!)...chelsea has always been able to attract decent names, they made it to champions league without the money, and like it or not they have ALOT of supporters world wide...probably more than a club like liverpool by now...also im sure all of you were born wearing a red devils shirt right? and supported united when they were shite? people start to like teams because they win plain and simple - GET OVER IT
Were Leeds ever considered a big club?
Shame they were financially ruined and seemingly will never return to the top flight. Chelsea were headed the same route as Leeds until a certain Russian chose that club over a handful of others as a means to create a public profile and launder his money. Seem to recall he considered United but the cost was too high for his liking, possibly too big a profile for him at the time as well, and then he supposedly chose Chelsea over Spurs.
Chelsea have won 14 Drawn 16 and lost 13, the only team to better United in head to heads in the PL era.in the premier league what is chelsea vs uniteds all time win/draw/loss record?
Your game against Barcelona was, from what I recall, terrible.As did we in the Final. We've given Barca a run for their money a few times too.
Didn't read the post thoroughly, here is the complete match history home/away including all first division and Premier league.in the premier league what is chelsea vs uniteds all time win/draw/loss record?
thank you rob, i knew that, was hopping a fellow united poster would do it and realize how big they really areChelsea have won 14 Drawn 16 and lost 13, the only team to better United in head to heads in the PL era.
PL's true allegiance is to Messi, err Barcelona.
Not fooling me! Your secondary love for Lyon came circa 2005, following another Ligue 1 title. We all know your bedroom was littered with Jeremy Clement and Jeremy Toulalan posters. Then you found your dream love in a teenager from Argentina.Like we say in French "Ni l'un, ni l'autre." The clue is in my username...You weren't far off so I'll give you 5 points for indicating a country other than England, is that ok?
Not even close MM. More like Cris, Grégory Coupet, Juninho and Thiago, with a bit of Benzema and Ben Arfa thrown into the mix. I couldn't see the out of the window because of those damned posters...Not fooling me! Your secondary love for Lyon came circa 2005, following another Ligue 1 title. We all know your bedroom was littered with Jérémy Clément and Jérémy Toulalan posters. Then you found your dream love in a teenager from Argentina.
oh my soo sorry to offend you proud_lyon but you missed the sarcasm in my post...obviously there are legit home grown manchester supporters...but how many people were born and raised in manchester vs how many fans manchester has world wide...dont be ignorant, uniteds fan base isnt so big due to manchester being a large city and the family pressures of who to support...its more down to united being SUCCESSFULThen you have a great deal of learning to do instead of generalising people in such a way. I was born in the red half of Manchester, but I was brought up in Rusholme, the blue area of Manchester, yes, Manchester England, not Manchester, Conneticut or any other Manchester for that matter. So, pressure was on me to support City like my dad, since we lived 200 yards from their stadium at the time. At the age of 5, I was already sporting a red/white/black scarf and I started supporting Manchester United just before Bryan Robson joined us from the Baggies. I accepted the good times and the bad times for what they were, mere moments in our great history. So, before making judgements about people, don't assume everyone that you are talking to is between the ages of 18-28, and only remember the good times.
Regarding the business and commercial side, United were in a league of their own for way too long. Breaking record after record. Still doing it. Not even Bayern, Barca and Real can match.Correct.
Nah, he's right. You got very lucky that your success started when it did (just before the Premier League era).
oh my soo sorry to offend you proud_lyon but you missed the sarcasm in my post...obviously there are legit home grown manchester supporters...but how many people were born and raised in manchester vs how many fans manchester has world wide...dont be ignorant, uniteds fan base isnt so big due to manchester being a large city and the family pressures of who to support...its more down to united being SUCCESSFUL
but credit to you proud_lyon for sticking through thick or thin
I am based in the US and never have a need to switch to/use an international or French keyboard. Damn French and their accents. Commies! joking about commiesNot even close MM. More like Cris, Grégory Coupet, Juninho and Thiago, with a bit of Benzema and Ben Arfa thrown into the mix. I couldn't see the out of the window because of those damned posters...
Edited, since you forgot the accents.
Tbf, at least Chelsea are still in Chelsea. Arsenal are essentially the original MK Dons. You don't get more plastic than that.