Right from the off (the very first trailer for TFA) sure there was a large backlash from white men online about there being a black (main) character. 'Diversity Wars' I believe was one of the phrases they used.
Like what?
Ill pass. Observed you're the most bitter of the lot i've come across on this board. We'd both be wasting our time.Like what?
Such fecking drivel. Explain what you mean.
Because you're talking out of your ass.
Not really. Anyway, take it easy.
Ah come on. It's been well reported over the last few months that she's been receiving torrents of specifically racist and sexist abuse and her director responded to it with:
Listen, I'm not defending what those type of "fans" do, okay, they're scumbags, but she actually hasn't given a reason why she left whatever social media platform she was using, my problem is the media again using it as a weapon to attack the larger swathe of Star Wars fans and particuarly push their anti-white male rhetoric. Despite the fact these same type of fans attacked Jake Lloyd and Hayden in the previous batch of films, my point being, it's far less a "Star Wars fans have a problem with women or miniorities" issue (that the press are trying to push) but tha there's a small section of the fanbase that take their lazer sword movies too serious that are true, aboslute scumbags.
I'm a white protestant man. I wasn't even aware of this impending doom hurtling my way...
)How many articles and talk show hosts pieces, from the like's Stephen Colbert, in the last 6months, from the release of TLJ up until Solo, would you like me to link where they're bashing white + men? Edit. Specificially over Star Wars, I mean.
Who’s that?
Kathleen Kennedy took over as exec producer of the Star Wars branch of films when Disney acquired the license, since then the films have had stronger and stronger overtones of progressivism. Marvel has a different exec overseeing and it's films generally have been far more well recieved.
Kathleen Kennedy, runs Lucasfilm now.
Obviously Star Wars is going to be more progressive than it was 20 odd years ago. It's the same for pretty much any big franchise today.
Oh yeah, I'd agree, I think Disney with Marvel for example handles it very well, with Star Wars it's been far more hamfisted with their approach.
What do you mean though? Have you any specific examples of this “progressive agenda” being so obvious it’s spoiling the movies for you?
It's not true though is it, 5mins talking with other Star Wars fans, the issue of politics arises, as it does in probably 50%+ of fan media such as on youtube over the last couple films or just basic fan write up reviews on Rotten Tomato's & IMDB. Certainly TLJ Nearly all make mention of it if you want check for yourself.
Alright, I will a bit later.
You still haven't spelled out what exactly you have a problem with (specific character, specific scene, specific storyline or dialogue).It's not true though is it, 5mins talking with other Star Wars fans, the issue of politics arises, as it does in probably 50%+ of fan meida such as on youtube over the last couple films or just basic fan write up reviews on Rotten Tomato's & IMDB. Certainly TLJ Nearly all make mention of it if you want check for yourself.
Also the last line, really? You're coming across as a paraody of a zealot yet again, passing judgement down, But hey whatever, just stick me on ignore if you would, please, thanks.
Plus Black Panther has the most obviously progressive agenda (admirably so) of any blockbuster movie from the last couple of decades (arguably ever?)
It's a deflection technique, not unlike the ones that managers use after a bad result to get the focus on the crazy shit they said instead of the result. Unfortunately in this instance there are some actual vocal bigotted dickheads, but it's highly unfair to label all Star Wars fans with that brush as you're going to get the same kind of people in every fan base.
She was in TFA, mate. TLJ toned her down a bit, but I think too much damage is done. She's still running around with powers and skills she hasn't earned. Even in the fight in the throne room she didn't have much issue with those guards despite next to no training. Kylo had more problems with them than she did.
Most people though, don't create 'fan media', they don't write reviews online, and they dontd whine about 'identity politics' being forced upon them because they don't identify that as an actual thing - unless they've spent what I assume is a substantial period of time on some weirdo subreddit echo chamber.It's not true though is it, 5mins talking with other Star Wars fans, the issue of politics arises, as it does in probably 50%+ of fan media such as on youtube over the last couple films or just basic fan write up reviews on Rotten Tomato's & IMDB. Certainly TLJ Nearly all make mention of it if you want check for yourself.
Also the last line, really? You're coming across as a paraody of a truebeliver zealot yet again, passing judgement down, But hey whatever, just stick me on ignore if you would, please, thanks.
Alright, I will a bit later.
Hey, I didn't say most people care or notice.
You keep on saying this, but have as of yet not provided any actual examples of politics which were presented within the movie.
Hey,
I've acknowledged that all films are political to some extent because art is influenced by the politics and culture within which it exists. But I don't think the politics of this film were particularly overbearing.
