I'm not a Southgate fan, but I doubt he forced Rashford to do that crazy runup instead of picking a corner and hitting it.
Southgate set Rashford and Sancho up for a fall.
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Sancho should have come on instead of Saka. Lest we forget Grealish only came on for 20 odd minutes, complete mismanagement
Dead right
Has to give them 10 15 mins to get settled down
Who does he think they are? Juan Mata or Alex Telles!?
Big fan of Southgate now, but weird to bring them on and not let either of them to have a kick of the ball and take a pen.
Should have given them a bit more than 45 seconds. Both have what was needed to win the game.
What a bottle job.
What a bottle job.
He blew the final
Could have subbed on both Rashford and Sancho in the 2nd half of ET
Disastrous management
Could have subbed on both Rashford and Sancho in the 2nd half of ET
Disastrous management
Don't worry, the redcafe 'fans' in that thread slating Marcus Rashford never go anywhere within 100 miles of Trafford and probably don't know what side of Manchester we play on
Picks a 19-year-old to take the 5th, brings on 2 players with no match time to take penalities.
Southgate should be sacked, but he will be knighted.
Southgate should be sacked, but he will be knighted.
Be interesting to find out if grealish and Sterling said no. A senior pro and a guy who thinks he god
Bringing on regular penalty takers in the last minute happens all the time. They just took poor ones. Bigger issue is England ceding all momentum and letting a fairly limited Italy team without a striker dominate so much of the game and waiting far too long to make game changing subs.
Italy deserved to win, and given the start and the players England had that is a failure.
Italy deserved to win, and given the start and the players England had that is a failure.
If this was supposed to be Southgate’s moment of redemption, he messed up worse than 25 years ago. Another Pizza Hut ad beckons.
Thrown in cold at the end. The should have both had at least 30 minutes
Sancho will be fine because he has been good in Bundesliga but with Rashford season and not even playing in tournament. Now missing a penalty after coming on just to take penalty. I really hope Rashford have thick skin and comes back to be even better.
Experiance should have gone first
Penalties should belong to the Experience ones.
Just watch the pens from Kane and Maguire, full commitment.
Just watch the pens from Kane and Maguire, full commitment.
Sancho should have came on instead of Saka, when saka came on. That really backfired.
I'm not so sure, Sancho and Rashford are talented boys and should have been able to execute. They didn't, that's football, they probably score 19/20 in training.
I didn't like Saka on the fifth penalty at this stage of his career, said that as he walked up. He had a very poor time when he came on and that was poor awareness from the manager. Credit to him for being brave but should have been overruled.
I do think the manager should have got Sancho and Rashford on at the start of the second half of extra time, or maybe even the start of extra time itself. Nothing to do with warming up to take a penalty but to win the game as we were always underdogs on pens.
I didn't like Saka on the fifth penalty at this stage of his career, said that as he walked up. He had a very poor time when he came on and that was poor awareness from the manager. Credit to him for being brave but should have been overruled.
I do think the manager should have got Sancho and Rashford on at the start of the second half of extra time, or maybe even the start of extra time itself. Nothing to do with warming up to take a penalty but to win the game as we were always underdogs on pens.
Villareal all over again. But much much worse.
Unforgiveable in game management.
Unforgiveable in game management.
Rashford needs to take a lot of time off to recover from his injury and probably for his mental health. He looks to have zero confidence at the moment. I almost cried watching his body language today.
Everyone keeps talking about Grealish, but what I saw him do is fail to grow some balls and allow a 19 year old kid go take a penalty instead.
I actually like Grealish but the way people carry on about him, you would've rightly thought he would take one of the pressure kicks.
I should say I disagree with the premise of the thread, nothing wrong with bringing on players to take penalties. Heck even Fergie did it.
Southgate fecked up in other areas
Southgate fecked up in other areas
I was sure Saka was gonna be subbed. Couldn't believe he was left on and then to take the last pen, feck me
Nothing wrong with the "crazy" run up. He successfully sent the goalkeeper the wrong way with it. It was just inaccuracy with the shot itself, which can happen however you take a penalty.
Sancho, Rashford and Saka should be responsible for their misses, not Southgate.
southgate deserves absolutely nothing that is coming to him
It's on them for their poor pens but they should have played in the 90 and maybe they could have won in normal time. Saka for me taking pen 5 was just a disaster waiting to happen. England certainly need a better coach to do well at the world cup next year.
Southgate fecks up another penalty shootout... Sancho and Rashford didn’t play a minute all game and barely the entire euros, he then brings them on last minute in the final to shoot the most high pressure penalties ever. And what a stupid deciscion to put down a 19 year old for the fifth. A player who everyone could see was not ready for this today. That was just borderline cruel from a man who has been haunted for messing up a penalty himself.
He obviously doesn't fancy himself taking penalties. Regularly let Ollie Watkins take and miss them at Villa. Then El Ghazi I think it was went on them
The annoying thing is, if he gets it right he is a genius. Yet now the players that missed will get the stick.
This.
How none of them started for Mount who did feck all is beyond me as well
Southgate is a joke. Feck England.
United > England.
ALWAYS.
United > England.
ALWAYS.
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Just sack Southgate off for being an utter moron and bring a Manager in who will actually make substitutions. Tonight was utter farcical ingame management. Amateur hours.
Seriously. The captain was the first taker and the substitute youngster the fifth?
It was their fault to miss their penalties not Southgate so stop blaming others for their blunders.
Grealish is the most overrated player of this season. He has talent but they talk about him, you'd think he's an unstoppable world class player
This is it. Dreadful management from a rubbish manager. The man is beige personified
It becomes even more ridiculous when you read it in print.