Otamendi has been quality for City, been a good signing for them tbh. Vidal has been decent for Barcelona too. Not sure why Dembele is on that list either, he's only 22, same for Rice. None of them would have been dreadful signings. Vidal and Otamendi would have brought leadership too a fairly spineless team.
The definitive list of Caf mistakes
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Yes, I remember this being quite a common opinion on here, while, at the same time, lots of people extolling the virtues of Henrich Mikatarian: we certainly got the shit-end-of-the-stick on that transfer.
I remember telling people on here he'd be a bad signing and getting stick for it.
No one could've predicted Gotze's metabolic problems, which are more than simple injuries but something in his body you can't completely erase or fix. Even then, he has a pretty good record for Germany and Bayern.
Is this a thread basically stating that football fans know squat? If so, I strongly agree with that message.
You took an absolute pounding on those first few pages.
I remember how people slaughtered Darren Fletcher in his first years at United
Because he was rubbish. I suppose it’s easier for the manager and coaches to see the true potential of a player, before they can realise it on the pitch. He offered absolutely nothing in-game for quite some time. But fair play to him, he developed in to a fantastic footballer.
It was warranted back then.
Darren was a very late bloomer. When he bloomes he got the accolade he deserves. Cant blame the fans for calling it correctly back then
I was thinking more about a "Gatusso" type player, but same difference...
You have a point with Martial, he put in arguably his best displays early on.
However Rashford had little expectations on him back then, so could barely lose.
He has loads on his shoulders now, so despite performing better than when he emerged, we expect more, so he gets less credit.
McTom in a way is similar. We expected zero of him when he first got in the team. Now he's showing he has plenty more to his game than we thought.
This is the time expectations increase, and he'll have to show more than he did at the start.
Too many names here. This is no definitive list. It's just "players who didn't live up to expectations".
It's more players like Memphis for example who the entire caf collectively wanked about that are genuine gaffs. Or Schneiderlin, most of the place was convinced he was the DM to solve all DM problems.
It's more players like Memphis for example who the entire caf collectively wanked about that are genuine gaffs. Or Schneiderlin, most of the place was convinced he was the DM to solve all DM problems.
I think we're too harsh on Memphis, he's doing very well for himself in Lyon, performing in the Ligue 1, UCL and internationally. I think it was more that he wasnt able to adjust in Manchester, especially with a manager like LvG.
Talent wise, he is really good. People compare him to Firmino but I think Memphis would also be doing well in a Klopp side.
Silva was highly rated by the majority here. In fact most were disappointed that City got him with a few skeptics (as always). Then when he took a hear to adjust the skeptics voices drowned out the others but regardless, the caf rated him. And they were correct.
Regardless, he was terrible for us despite being hyped up as another Ronaldo whereas Martial was on a weekly basis showing us what a top talent looked like. The difference was stark, as what the hype Vs reality of Memphis at United.
Damien Duff.......
RedCafe's Ronaldinho alternative.
I thought it was ridiculous back then.
RedCafe's Ronaldinho alternative.
I thought it was ridiculous back then.
This was back in the 03/04/05 seasons when he was 19-20 years old - so no it was completely unwarranted, especially as Fletcher often was made to play almost as a winger.
And yet he was brilliant for Chelsea in Mourinho's first two seasons.
I always wanted to actually looking into this, go through a list of the players people got mad when someone else snapped them up or we didn't sign them and then they didn't turn out of be all that great.
Pedro
Serge Aurier
Fábio Coentrão
Are the only ones that spring to mind.
Pedro
Serge Aurier
Fábio Coentrão
Are the only ones that spring to mind.
I think Pedro has done well for Chelsea. Especially with everyone still talking about how we should have kept Nani for longer, Pedro reminds me of him in England whilst not exactly playing for the most creative team or managers either.
I never wanted him here though.
He's done okay, I just recall people losing their collective shit in orders of magnatitude beyond his performances.
He wasn't rubbish. He always had a great engine and a decent cross, but people were expecting him to replace Beckham. Eventually Fergie moved him into central midfield permanently, where he performed in big games. There wasn't some sort of meteoric rise over the years in terms of development, people just started to finally appreciate him more because he showed up more often than the rest.
This doesn't really have any relevance on this thread. Regardless of what you believe of his time here, it's basically a proven fact that he turned into a star for club and country, unlike the list of names on the OP that actually have relevance here.
Huge fan. Remains one of the most exciting between the ages of 16 and 18 I've ever seen. Ruined by injuries but the hindsighters pretending he never had anything are talking bollocks.
No they are not. A lot of football fans pegged him as overhyped and not deserving praise. It was the first “FM” phenomenon I’ve seen in the flesh. People who watched the games questioned where the hype was coming from, people who played video games were sure he’d succeed.
Weigl?
Mbappe - "He's only doing it in the French league"
Anyone questioning the 4 year De Gea deal was pretty loudly shouted down, and he's been fairly average again this season. Early days but he's been unconvincing, albeit without the major calamities from the business end of last season.
I was guilty of wanting Ronaldo gone in 2006 and having Aaron Lennon instead.
It was before my time on the cafe
It was before my time on the cafe
This post is up there.
You've been totally convinced by him this season have you?
Nigel Reo-Coker been brought up yet?
If it's not true, why has he been stripped of the captaincy in favour of Maguire?
3 years later then 10 years later. I can't believe he never scored a goal for the English national team.I was guilty of wanting Ronaldo gone in 2006 and having Aaron Lennon instead.
It was before my time on the cafe
Plays as a winger. Failed to impress. Called as no prospect.
We can only judge what we see. It's up to them to prove us wrong, we got no crystal balls
Quoting the OP which you should have probably read.
Also, "regardless of what you believe of his time here"?
Do you hold a different belief that is out of touch with reality or something?Duff was class for Chelsea for a few seasons.
I was one of the main ones to say he would not be a top class player as the only good quality about him was his physicality. Bayern got rinsed.
He is absolute dog shit.
Conte is a great manager I am surprised so many doubted him.