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Television The Disappearance of Madeleine Mccann Netflix Documentary
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My interest in this case has long since waned, so I can only remember something about shutters as a part of some theory. What was their significance again?
I believe the pressure came when the authorities broke protocol and went public, and to my mind made up a person of interest.
Which is the documentary's version of events. Minus the Bastards part. I do find it odd how she would think that a child has automatically been kidnapped.
The truth is his version is just that, and hasn't been proven.
If he was a reputable character he probably wouldn't have been sacked from the force, and most likely wouldn't be profiteering from other's misery with his book.
It does seem an odd thing to say, but I guess there is no standard way to act in shock.
In the immediate aftermath of the disappearance. Kate McCann alleged that an intruder came in through the window by jemmying the shutters. This information was relayed to the press by her family members back in England. The Portuguese police examined the shutters and also the door and reported that they were undamaged. Their story began to change which, according to Amaral, first raised his suspicions.
Yeah there is no definitive way of knowing until it happens to you.
Bit off topic but there are young'uns on Fb etc who haven't a fecking clue who Maddie McCann is which makes me feel old as feck.
Suppose outside of this documentary you only hear about it when the police are given additional funding for further investigation.
Gerry checked once, a friend checked once but didnt actually go into the room, kate then went and she was gone. It was half hourly checks as well so she went missing after an hour.
Yeah it's something my wee brother commented on. He's 17. He'd have been 6...
Ps. That long haired Daily Mail wanker wants it to be Murat so bad. The British media really ate the poor guy alive. Good job he got substantial pay out and an apology which no one read.
Ah yeah, I remember that now.
I'm not sure I can bring myself to believe any of the peadophile ring theories, or those that suggest the McCann's either purposely or accidentally caused Madeleine's death, but in my eyes, they're certainly guilty of severe, criminal neglect of their children, regardless of how many other people did the same or similar back then.
I would love to see a proper justification for the continued funding of this case. It appears there have been no leads or new information in the last decade, yet more and more money gets thrown at it.
Exactly right according to the documentary. The apartment wasnt even locked ffs
Well that's always the problem with any account of this nature. Police officers speculate; it is part of their job, and Amaral soon came to suspect the McCanns were lying. As for him being sacked, enormous pressure was brought to bear on the Portuguese authorities by the British government to solve the case, or, as some have suggested, to make it fit the narrative put forward by the McCanns.
I have no doubt Amaral was embittered by what happened, but he wouldn't be the first copper to have felt the hot breath of politicians on his neck in a sensitive case (John Stalker?). As for profiteering, that cuts both ways. The McCanns have received quite a lot of money during the pendency of this inquiry and even now, in 2019, Scotland Yard are seeking more funding to find Madeleine. Maybe Amaral was motivated by money in part but that doesn't explain why Kate McCann's story kept on changing or why she refused to answer police questions.
If you don't want to read his book, and you're interested in the case, watch Richard D. Hall's documentary films or check out 'The McCann Files' where you'll find a lot of interesting stuff.
I'll take a look.
This site below has the other book, and a lot of bits and pieces.
http://goncaloamaraltruthofthelie.blogspot.com/2009/06/chapter-5.html
I still don't think too much into the McCann's behaviour though. Under that pressure with such a situation happening, I can't imagine anyone is going to be too polished.
And I dare say I'd eventually snap if the line of questioning seems to be getting at me, rather than what I felt was looking for the abductor.
For the sake of balance, it's also good to glance through sites like this which debunk a lot of the "facts" that fuel the theory that the parents were responsible. Also, unlike many of the anti-McCann sites, it contains full citation of sources, many of which are primary ones.
http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/39076140/Main Page
http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/39076140/Main Page
If she was still alive and seen a picture of her 3 year old self, would she recognise herself?
Most likely not, as you'd only recognise yourself from that age if you'd seen the photos before. Which she wouldn't have.
It was the way they found the apartment after she was gone. Something about the shutters/windows.
Who are "they" ?
What ever the truth is, the McCanns are...........................................not good people.
Actually, I had very little interest in the case in 2007. Mrs Moriarty got an e-copy of Amaral's book a few years ago and I read it on a wet weekend when I was laid up with a bad cold. That sparked my interest and I watched Hall's films; not that I didn't have enough of my own work to do, but it was a diversion and a bit of a busman's holiday.
If my child had gone missing from my holiday flat, I would move heaven and earth to find them. But, there again, I wouldn't leave the child alone in a flat while I went out for a meal. There's just too much that is unexplained: the blood evidence, the cadaver dogs, the changing stories, the refusal to answer questions, and so on. Will it ever be solved? I don't think so. Not now and we will never know what happened to that child.
Well, one theory poses the idea that the McCann's and their friends essentially pimped out their children as part of a peadophile ring. Make of that what you will.
I think it was because the windows or shutters had been opened. When they opened the door they noticed as it slammed. A child probably couldn't do that.
There was the strange statement given to the Leicester police by a friend of the McCanns Dr. Gasper. It makes for quite disturbing reading:
“One night, when all the adults, that is, from those couples I have mentioned above, were all sitting around on a patio outside the house where we were all staying. We had been eating and drinking ‘Berbers’.
I was sitting between Gerry and Dave and I think both were talking about Madeleine. I can’t remember the conversation in its entirety, but they seemed to be discussing a particular scenario. I remember Dave saying to Gerry something about ‘she’, meaning Madeleine, ‘would do this’.
“While he mentioned the word ‘this’, Dave was doing the action of sucking one of his fingers, pushing it in and out of his mouth, while with his other hand he was doing a circle around his nipple, with a circular movement around his clothes. This was done in a provocative way. There seemed to be an explicit insinuation about what he was saying and doing. I remember being shocked by that. I always felt it was something very weird and that it was not something anyone should say or do. I looked at Gerry, and also at Dave, to gauge their reactions."
You can read the entire thing here: http://thegaspersstatement.blogspot.com/
Just read that. Who the feck is david payne and was he questioned as a suspect?
I doubt most people know the investigation, setting, suspects etc well unless they've closely followed the case. And it's a huge matter of public interest.
No one actually believes that the McCanns were part of some paedophile ring, do they?
Conspiracy theorists believe the world is controlled by either Jews or paedophile rings. Since the McCanns aren’t Jewish...
I have to agree with this. Even a one hour documentary called Draining Alcatraz that I watched the other day was basically a 15 minute documentary stretched out with multiple repeats of the same thing that they were going to "show for the first time". Truly horrendous watching.
The the equivalent of TV click bait.
Yeah that makes me wanna throw up every time I see it, can't comprehend how someone would be thinking that about their child after they've gone missing but to then put it in your fecking book ffs.
Yep.
Odd,certainly, but much in that situation would be odd. I’ve read about people talking about their sons’ or grandsons’ penises like that.
Nah, most normal people don't. It's the sort of lurid conspiracy theory that people untroubled by either critical thinking skills or common sense can play around with online though.
But she had a very distinct marking in her eye, which wouldn't have disappeared. If she is still alive and seeing the photos, you would think it would be something that she would look into.
If she was trafficked to some random country or by whatever gang of travellers as some suggested, chances are she wouldn't even come across the photo or case
My thought as well, but you beat me to it.
Good point.
I was thinking to simple on that one.
There are just so many different theories, I don't believe it will ever be solved.
My biggest grind with the whole story, is that those 2 have been making money off it the whole way. Guilty or not, I don't understand how that can happen. The news stories, books, interviews etc. It is wrong on so many levels.
Genuinely surprised by that, you live in the States I assume? People forget some of the stuff the McCanns pulled in the months after she went missing, there was a worldwide concert (Gerry McCann wanted Elton John to lead things but can't remember if he turned up) and they got their own audience with the Pope ffs.
All that was making worldwide headlines in 2007.Have to say watching the first two episodes of that Sunderland doc and I was rolling my eyes at all the dumbed down info "THREE teams get relegated from the premier league" etc. Probably a bug bearer of mine with how Netflix do documentaries.
Probably me putting two seperate theories together but apparently years later Gerry McCann claimed they saw distant people taking photos of small kids on the beach so maybe they'd talked about that just before the incident occured and first irrational thought was they were being watched from the road and someone had broken it.
The child smuggling ring was one of the theories anyway in the early days of the investigation and still lingers.
Have to say though if they felt that could be an issue I wouldn't let any young child in a foreign land out of sight, would be in their prams while having dinner if needs be.