Gaming The Last of Us Part II (PS4)
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I think Neil Druckmann is too good a writer to go for that old cliché. That said, Joel dying at some point during the game wouldn't surprise me, it's hard to see how he fits into a story with Ellie taking on the bad guys on her own. I trust Naughty Dog to handle it well though.
Seems inevitable that Joel will be killed off, agree that it needs to happen on screen. Invested time in Joel, we should get to see him go out on a high saving someone's ass, kicking some infecteds head in!
The gameplay looks brilliant from that trailer, can't wait!
My interpretation of Ellie saying that 'she is going to kill all of them' has more to do with humans than zombies, but that is total speculation.
I think that NG are smart enough to not kill him off-screen. That would be totally cheap. Give him an emotional death, and let Ellie be there to see it.
And while it would be a ripoff from an another game (The Walking Dead), I wouldn't mind this:
I think that NG are smart enough to not kill him off-screen. That would be totally cheap. Give him an emotional death, and let Ellie be there to see it.
And while it would be a ripoff from an another game (The Walking Dead), I wouldn't mind this:
Ellie actually killing him after he gets infected. One of the most heartbreaking moments in video games for me was when I had to kill Lee playing as Clementine. The tears! 
Would play.
If you play the newest trailer in reverse, you can actually hear Ringo Starr saying "Joel is dead. Miss him"
Seriously though, there's a scene in the E3 gameplay footage/trailer where a guy talks about Ellie's "old man" - and the person he's describing sounds very much like Joel. I do think Joel dies, but I think it's early in the game, rather than between games.
Edit: Oh, people have already mentioned that. Serves me right for only reading the last couple of posts.
Seriously though, there's a scene in the E3 gameplay footage/trailer where a guy talks about Ellie's "old man" - and the person he's describing sounds very much like Joel. I do think Joel dies, but I think it's early in the game, rather than between games.
Edit: Oh, people have already mentioned that. Serves me right for only reading the last couple of posts.
My interpretation of that scene was Joel is dead, she's killing for revenge and just pictured him there. There's a ghostly feel about him and his face hasn't been shown in any trailer
That is what I think too.
The great thing about Naughty Dog, is that when they show gameplay in a trailer, you know it's actual gameplay and not the crap that the likes of Ubisoft for instance pull. No bullshitting.
So Ellie is the only playable character in this? That's disappointing. Joel is one of my favourite characters in gaming. It also sounds like the clickers are going to be replaced by evil humans as the main enemies. I might skip this.
Humans were the main enemies for most of the first game.
Sure, if you ignore all of the clickers.
Pretty sure that you deal more with humans than with the clickers and other zombies in the first game. In most of the levels, main enemies are humans, and the final level deals only with humans. When you're playing as Ellie, you're dealing mostly with humans, etc etc.
For sure you will have clickers here too. And well, with clickers being blind and other zombies not that strong, humans with weapons give more challenge.
The entire game is based on a disaster which has come about because of a virus which produces clickers. Sure, there are evil humans in there but again, they are a by product of the virus / clickers. I can barely recall being killed by a human in the first game. I died quite a few times to stalkers, clickers and bloaters.
From what I've seen of the second one (and I haven't watched the entirety of the E3 game play footage), it just seems to be humans. Not my bag, man. Hopefully I'm wrong.
You'd think at some point that the zombies would die off (well, not die but...waste away?)
I reckon there'll be plenty of stalkers, clickers and bloaters still around. They've barely shown anything yet and IIRC the early videos of the first one were based around the human element of enemies.
The first game had numerous human confrontations like what was shown in Part II's E3 trailer. I'd argue the majority of combat was like that. It balanced it out with tense zombie sequences like when you're exploring the university. There's no reason to suspect this game will be any different, we've seen about 10 minutes of gameplay so far so that's not a lot to go on.
Also, as much as I like Joel, I feel his story has been told. This is definitely going to be Ellie's story.
I like how you pointed that out as if it wasn't immediately obvious to anyone who watched the trailer.Ellie is definitely more interesting to me than Joel. The second game is going to be about her and I'm happy with that. We've already had our fill of Joel and while i really hope he's still prominent in the sequel, Ellie is the draw for me. Can't wait.
Decent amount of copies sold of the first game:
Decent amount of copies sold of the first game:
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love this game, trailer and gameplay looks fabulous
You may be right, but it's a bit of jump to conclusion.
It looks as though were living in a small community getting by, but obviously as it's a flashback something went wrong. They could have been overrun by infected? Or a new gang?
But as people have already said, majority of the first game was about survival against other people (Joels kid is shot by a soldier, They get hunted and Tess gets killed by soldiers, Joel gets injured fighting off bandits, the cannibals, hospital etc.). The infected are a more a side part.
Must be the most annoying npc’s ever
The old trope; "Humans are the real monsters."
My guess is her girlfriend gets killed/taken by some cult. She goes looking for revenge/for her but Joel refuses to let her go alone so he goes with her but he's an old man now and is killed pretty early on in the game leaving Ellie to go it alone. Game ends horrible and bleakly with her dead or mentally broken.
I'm not sure they'd do that to Ellie to be honest. They wouldn't treat here that way imo
Dunno, TLOU doesn't lend itself to "happily ever after." either.
The character has been murdering and killing since she's been a child so she can't be totally right in the head!
Oh, it's not going to be happily ever after. I didn't mean it like that really. In terms of the mental impact on her, they've kind of acknowledged that in the first game. Obviously she grew up in this world, so she's almost become immune to it in that sense.
I just really don't think they would end the series by treating her like that. Could be wrong, but i would be surprised.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want her to die! But I think they'll go for the emotional gut-punch.
I really hope not. I want Ellie to be happy!
Are people thinking that gameplay is scripted then? If the under the car stuff is natural then that's amazing.
The demo was obviously heavily choreographed. They clearly run through it a couple of times and had the AI perform in a way that wasn't completely random. Par for the course really with these E3 demos. This just makes sense, as you want to show the demo off in a clean way.
People are being naive if they think Druckman is going down the cliche route.
The clearest thing I can take away from the trailers is that we are going to be playing across a few different time periods and not necessarily in a chronological order. There are also likely to be parallels between how Joel became disillusioned after losing Sarah and how Ellie reacts to whatever event occurs in Jackson - that will not be Joel dying. It’s more likely tied to the mystery woman from the Paris trailer.
The clearest thing I can take away from the trailers is that we are going to be playing across a few different time periods and not necessarily in a chronological order. There are also likely to be parallels between how Joel became disillusioned after losing Sarah and how Ellie reacts to whatever event occurs in Jackson - that will not be Joel dying. It’s more likely tied to the mystery woman from the Paris trailer.
I know its unlikely but i genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see the game released this year. Could easily see it being released with 4 weeks notice from ND. The hype is already there.
Doubt it.
They would have mentioned it at E3 if there was a release date.
Also doubt Sony would release it later this year even if it was finished. September is Spider-Man month. Then really after that it’s Red Dead.
Sony prefer if they can help it release most of their exclusives in the early part of the year and rely on third party for the later part of the year. It worked for Bloodborne, Horizon, Uncharted 4 and GOW which all sold well being released in the early part of the year. They released other games like Detroit and The Order in the early part of the year.
No way we are getting it this year. As Bojan said, they would have mentioned it in E3 if that is the case, and the year is a bit packed with Spidy and then Red Dead Redemption 2 which I think is a game no-one would like to compete with. Then next February is super packed, so expect it to be released in May or so.
Also, it took 3 years between TLoU and Uncharted 4. Expect 3 years between U4 and TLoU2.
Also, it took 3 years between TLoU and Uncharted 4. Expect 3 years between U4 and TLoU2.
Just a guess...July 2019 release. Original was released June/July 2013.
The summer will be free for TLOU2 to sell by the bucket load.
The summer will be free for TLOU2 to sell by the bucket load.
Absolutely no chance
Another video here for those interested in the real nerdy shit in the demo:
Some incredible detail. Makes you wonder just how much further graphics and detail can go in games.
Most impressive thing they managed though is to make a videogame kiss look kinda normal and not weird like every other game.
Yeah that was pretty incredible. Normally excruciating to watch, but they absolutely nailed it. The best trailer at e3 easily for me.
As the first one was my fav game I cannot wait to play this