Marcelinho87
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You just know he will miss the Northampton game, come back for Leicester and either score or set one up despite being want again but then the headlines will be 'Rooney silences his critics' or some shite.
Keane came very close to leaving the club in 1999/2000 over his contract extension. Had the club not caved in and obliterated it's wage structure he'd have been playing for Bayern or Juventus.I don't recall Scholes or Keane EVER playing this bad for a prolonged period of time if at all, also don't remember them angling for moves at any given opportunity.
Rooney is DONE and he needs to be fecked off asap.
I'd say we're shit out of alternatives. Which will likely be the case if Martial and Mikhi are still injured. Especially after Depay's atrocious audition against Feyenoord.I have been thinking that with Rooney for two years now and he never gets dropped, so I'm not sure he's getting dropped next week tbh. What would you say if he manages to stay in the team despite playing like he's drunk?
Oh definitely! They've been making noises for quite a while.I think a lot of England fans wouldn't mind seeing the back of him as well.
The whole notion of him having a clause to play is ridiculous but the only reason I would entertain the thought is because we are talking about Moyes and Woodward in their first summer negotiating with Stretford and probably absolutely terrified of the thought of losing a player of his (2013) profile.Seeing how little entertainment we get on the fecking football field these last few years, this particular soap opera is kind of fascinating. I refuse to believe that any player ever has had a contract which forces a manager to pick him but it really will be interesting to see how long Mou keeps picking someone who was as atrocious as Rooney was today.
Good man. That's that, then. It was never remotely plausible tbf.Regarding the 'must play' clause - it's bollocks
He was dropped last year vs. Stoke away http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35139937
I may have posted this a few times but I need to regularly re-assure he can be dropped....
Wasn't he coming back from some kind of injury at that time?Good man. That's that, then. It was never remotely plausible tbf.
Worked out well that though. It was something Fergie hated. Felt the wage structure hindered bringing the best inKeane came very close to leaving the club in 1999/2000 over his contract extension. Had the club not caved in and obliterated it's wage structure he'd have been playing for Bayern or Juventus.
Jose took off Rashford for Zlatan on Thursday. We needed to score then. Mata could of easily replaced Rooney in the same like for like fashion.He wasn't subed because he was an attacking player, we hooked one injured player and two defenders, you wouldn't remove a number ten when going for the win first, you go for the defenders to get more bodies up there.
He came on at half time.Wasn't he coming back from some kind of injury at that time?
I think we know that. But, he's a part of the problem that needs removing so we ca start having some coherence in team.It's good that themedia is finally realizing what most United fans have been seeing for well over a year now but we need to remember that dropping Rooney won't be an instant fix to all our problems. It will only be one of many steps that will be needed to get this team back to the top.
I think that's just the polite way they say someone is droppedWasn't he coming back from some kind of injury at that time?
I agree, however:The whole notion of him having a clause to play is ridiculous but the only reason I would entertain the thought is because we are talking about Moyes and Woodward in their first summer negotiating with Stretford and probably absolutely terrified of the thought of losing a player of his (2013) profile.
Add on top of that Van Gaal's treatment of him compared to others and now Mourinho's treatment: "He is not a midfielder" - only spot left for him is midfield so he plays him there. Ineffective? Push him wide instead of taking him off.
Something just doesn't add up.
His constant playing I think is a combo of each manager clinging to the idea he can still be great, and also the intense pressure inside and outside the club for him to be a part of the starting line up.Regarding the 'must play' clause - it's bollocks
He was dropped last year vs. Stoke away http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35139937
I may have posted this a few times but I need to regularly re-assure myself he can be dropped....
Which would be fair enough but Martial went off injured so you wouldn't hook another potential match winner.Jose took off Rashford for Zlatan on Thursday. We needed to score then. Mata could of easily replaced Rooney in the same like for like fashion.
My theory, they are all muppets. They all watched Rooney in his prime, they probably dreamed about him. He was the perfect player for a manager, extremely hard working but also very productive and now they all want to experience that, they want to enjoy young Rooney.The whole notion of him having a clause to play is ridiculous but the only reason I would entertain the thought is because we are talking about Moyes and Woodward in their first summer negotiating with Stretford and probably absolutely terrified of the thought of losing a player of his (2013) profile.
Add on top of that Van Gaal's treatment of him compared to others and now Mourinho's treatment: "He is not a midfielder" - only spot left for him is midfield so he plays him there. Ineffective? Push him wide instead of taking him off.
Something just doesn't add up.
in the recent Paul Parker article where he said Rooney was slow and overweight, he mentioned commercial reasons in itHis constant playing I think is a combo of each manager clinging to the idea he can still be great, and also the intense pressure inside and outside the club for him to be a part of the starting line up.
Like seeing a boy band member who was gorgeous, then you see him on some reunion thing and he is balding with a beer belly?My theory, they are all muppets. They all watched Rooney in his prime, they probably dreamed about him. He was the perfect player for a manager, extremely hard working but also very productive and now they all want to experience that, they want to enjoy young Rooney.
Absolutely mate. It was that tight as feck wage structure that had stopped us from signing the likes of Edgar Davids, Salas and Batistuta at the time.Worked out well that though. It was something Fergie hated. Felt the wage structure hindered bringing the best in
Carry on like this and no sponsor will want to be connected with him. Pogba/Rashford/Martial/Zlatan are far more marketable than Wayne.in the recent Paul Parker article where he said Rooney was slow and overweight, he mentioned commercial reasons in it
Wouldn't surprise me... Hopefully Pogba can be the new superstar.in the recent Paul Parker article where he said Rooney was slow and overweight, he mentioned commercial reasons in it
Yup, but everytime you put the tapes in the boombox you see them young and beautiful.Like seeing a boy band member who was gorgeous, then you see him on some reunion thing and he is balding with a beer belly?
Do you recall Giggs playing like shit for three years?I don't recall Scholes or Keane EVER playing this bad for a prolonged period of time if at all, also don't remember them angling for moves at any given opportunity.
Rooney is DONE and he needs to be fecked off asap.
Ryan Giggs never played as badly as Rooney has for this long. It's absolute nonsense if you're trying to claim that.Do you recall Giggs playing like shit for three years?
Nope.He'll treat a few of them to a drink and meal at his house this week and all this negative press will vanish.
Except Wayne was in an ugly boyband.Yup, but everytime you put the tapes in the boombox you see them young and beautiful.
Tbh, he did go through a slump in the early 2000s and was even booed at OT, but he was never this bad.Ryan Giggs never played as badly as Rooney has for this long. It's absolute nonsense if you're trying to claim that.
Its really hard to analyse how good or bad we are with Rooney in the team. He seemed to give the ball away with every touch today.Finally. It would be a good start to drop Rooney but our problems run deep and there is a lot of fixing to do.
Giggs lost his pace but adapted his game. Wayne reminds most of us of the Gary Neville situation, but Gary realised what was happening and did the dignified thing. Wayne is in danger of becoming a laughing stock.Ryan Giggs never played as badly as Rooney has for this long. It's absolute nonsense if you're trying to claim that.