Miocic isn't letting him get any wind. Stipe got caught and rocked there, but went straight on top of him and tired him out some more.
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Ngannou needs to work on his ground game badly.
This is one of the most one-sided and protracted HW fights i've ever seen.
What a snoozefest
And his endurance..he should probably also bring in some kicking to his game and throw in some head movement while he's at it.
Herb can end this now and no one would care.
Only chance Ngannou has is keeping it stood up, but he just can't stop the take down. Exhausted.
Two shit title fights.
It looks like even themselves are falling asleep from it.
Wtf am I watching?
Christ, this has to be the biggest anticlimax to any fight ever.
Yeahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! 
That is what I'm talking about.
Stipe the GOAT
Stipe the GOAT
That sucked. Feel bad for anyone who paid for the show.
Forget Stipe winning, who called it going the distance?
What a shit fight, but Miocic did what he needed to win. Fair enough.
There's levels to this game. No truer words spoken by Cormier.
That's not his problem.
His problem is that he is too big, and fights in a manner to leverage his size and explosiveness. It's what got him where he is, but at the same time, it's a system that cannot reliably win after a round or two.
Maybe he needs a better ground game, but it's hard to say, because by the time the fight went to the ground, he could barely stand up anyways, so good ground game or not, it wouldn't have mattered!
Yeah it is but not his only one.
Can't understand what he's saying.
There is no clear contender next for Miocic...
Is Cain coming back?
i think Ngannou will fight for the title again (one day).
Is Cain coming back?
i think Ngannou will fight for the title again (one day).
He needs at least another year before he's ready.
Did Ngannou punch himself out in the 1st round? Or did Miocic tire him out?
If he fought that fight more intelligently and wait for the opening instead of trying to force it, is there a different outcome?
As soon as he was tired, Miocic controlled it with ease. But what was the cause of the fatigue?
If he fought that fight more intelligently and wait for the opening instead of trying to force it, is there a different outcome?
As soon as he was tired, Miocic controlled it with ease. But what was the cause of the fatigue?
he reminded of my nephew when chasing whatever...
I think the title fight got into his head.
He punched himself out in the first half of the first round, then Stipe took over and started taking him down and basically putting his weight on him to tire him further.
Either Werdum or Cain. I'm sure Fab will want another crack at him.
DC said so after his fight. End of the year.
The cause of the fatigue, is that he was probably 275-280 pounds in the ring, with maybe 10% body fat. He fought wild and aggressively in the opening 180 seconds or so. A persons heart is typically only so big, a persons lungs are typically only so big. There is not a linear progression of cardio with size. He got tired because he's a giant dude, big muscles suck a lot of oxygen, and he fought very fast and aggressively and did not meter his energy out.
The only thing Miocic did, was not get mauled like Leonardo Di Caprio in the Revenent, and let Ngannou get tired, then when he say his opportunity, he draped himself on him punched him in the face, and sapped any energy Ngannou had left.
So if Ngannou fought more intelligently he'd have a better chance. That's obvious to say with hindsight.
But a less tired Ngannou handles those takedown attempts easier and waits for his opening.
Because even in that utter domination by Miocic, he still looks battered.
His fundamental problem is similar to that of Rumble Johnson. He will come at you with haymakers early in the fight to end it early. If he can't then he will gas badly and spend the rest of the fight trying to survive.
Someone with explosive power who keeps trying to knock someone's head off will get tired very quickly. Plus as Rogan pointed out, Ngannou may have had a huge adrenaline dump, and that takes everything out of the body. Miococ has good knockout power and had rocked Ngannou a few times too. As a result, Ngannou had to respect Miocic's hands and couldn't go all out. Add the takedowns and the leg kicks. Perfect strategy my Miocic and I had marked him for the win.
Once again, wrestling and cardio are king.
So would that always happen? In Ngannou's and Miocic particular case, is this result where the smart money goes? Or can Ngannou mitigate his size by fighting more intelligently?
So it's a mindset issue? Surely if someone got him jabbing and waiting for openings, with a little bit more craft and subtlety, he'd be almost unstoppable?
I know everything I'm saying is very hypothetical. But like you just said, cardio and wrestling are king. Is there any way that power and intelligence can be king?
What Ngannou needs to do:
- Lose weight (fight at 245 instead of 265).
- Lose muscle mass
- Work on his ground game
- Focus on cardio
He basically needs to become a complete fighter and not remain a one trick pony.
- Lose weight (fight at 245 instead of 265).
- Lose muscle mass
- Work on his ground game
- Focus on cardio
He basically needs to become a complete fighter and not remain a one trick pony.
Great conditioning, having a well thought-out game plan, and actually executing it - all helped Stipe tonight. He successfully weathered the storm in the early 1st, after which Ngannou's speed and power fell off a cliff.
You see guys like Tyron Woodley doing that. You need to get your hands on them and they get tired quickly, but if you don't, he knock you out or keep you at distance.
eventually, with more experience and training, i can see it working for Ngannou too.
Not necessarily.
A guy like Ngannou is always going to struggle with 5 rounds. Shit, they are going to struggle with 3. A guy like that, pretty much has to maximize their potential to win, and their potential is never better at the start of the fight. If you take it easy, you still get tired, and you can get outworked and maybe you never actually threaten to leverage your size advantage or athletic advantage (in the case of T-Wood). T-Wood is a very similar fighter, but the HW division exaggerates everything even more, because Ngannou was probably close to 40 pounds bigger in the ring. So it's not apples to apples, he's working with an even more stressed gas tank compared to the guys he fights.
IF you actually look back through the history of combat sports since the advent of the super heavy weight, MMA and Boxing, the optimal size has been closer to 240, than it has been 265. A 265 guy is a serious threat early, but they predictably get tired quickly, whereas the 240 pound guy has that combination of stamina and power, more powerful than a smaller HW, but not so big that they gas like a 265 pounder.